I typically see a turn around play that costs around 15-20k per unit in this market, and with that money we can get a nice product that has pretty much everything done on it from the windows, roof, electrical some plumbing all the way to the kitchens and baths. 

One of my favorite episodes (I believe it’s episode 6 or 7) is Why You’re Not Financially Free (or something like that), where he talks about home equity (which plays into your 15 vs 30 question).  

While driving around at work and at jobs I will play BP Podcasts just to surround myself with the material. 

Use a color swap app or a program where you can play with changing the exterior color of the house. 

As for cashflow on 4 plex’s, there’s lots of ways to run those numbers and lots of factors play into typical returns for a property type.

Also, I was thinking, later down the line, it would be interesting to pick up a few properties in Cherry Hill to play the appreciation game.

Both option 1a and 1b are labor intensive, correct?

Now if you wait till life is more back to normal it might be a valid play.

Sounds like my plan to play the long game and keep things as they are is the right path for me.

Let them split the cost as the tenant also played a role in this by refusing it.