Once I’ve confirmed who they (allegedly) are (of the latest wave,) I often call back multiple times, and when I get a live answer, I play music - only then do they get the point.

The thing I am working on now is getting all of my pieces together to understand the roles each person will play in my business.

I want to buy it as a long term play.

James Wise called you out on ties/ownership in this PM entity, and you played word-salad games trying to pretend had no connections to it. 

Im able to find great cash flow here and over the last 5 years we have seen appreciaiotn play as well. 

Happy to connect and discuss further if you'd like.Also, here is an article that explains how DSCRs come into play with BRRRRs: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/brrrr-loans-what-are-the-...

and you can find an almost unlimited variation on risk ( from low to high leverage, both floating and fixed rate debt, from no to high skin in the game, etc).

@Archie BarrettJust wanted to say that there are MANY reasons to consider a DSCR loan vs a conventional loan, not ONLY if you do not qualify for a conventional loan due to DTI.Possible DSCR Benefits:Can do cash out refi prior to 1 year seasoning of the mortgageCan do cash out refi with no seasoning of ownership (with some lenders)Can do a loan with much less paperwork (this comes more into play every time you add a property)Can close on a DSCR loan directly in your LLCCan have your DSCR loan not report on credit (depending on the lender)DSCR loans can be cheaper than conventional loans for many credit scores and down payments.

It rents for $1950 and is more of an appreciation play because I like the area. 

David, you got played.