Paint and drywall are behind because the city couldn't get power to the site in time, making it impossible to keep the heat high enough for the finish material to cure properly, pushing every other phase out, and this isn't the only project in town.

.), two bathrooms, added a bathroom, fully redid the kitchen, refinished the hardwoods, paint, baseboard, trim, redid all of the plumbing in the house (above and below ground), water proofed the basement (internal/external french drains and sump pumps, and did all of the landscaping (mulch, new sod, removal of trees, etc.)

With the example you have above are you saying a better way is to just forego real estate ground-level work and just become a money lender?

I’d love to start investing in Cleveland but having difficulty getting enough traction with people on the ground!

Get your boots on the ground, mayne.

Check out some of the REIAs and jump over to some trust sales to introduce yourself - Those are probably people who have their feet on the ground where you're looking to learn more. 

A new build 2 doors down is about to break ground and they are trying to presell for high 300s. 

The goal here is to cut your losses and get back on level ground.

I am looking to connect with other investors in the area and could bring value to other investors with my back ground in Civil Engineering in Atlanta.

I logged one stand in the NW Oregon area .. same area as AX man show logs in Vernonia OR.. and got over 450k net to me on that sale.. so it really depends on what you got.Even in CA.. you can still see 3 and 4 log loads going down the road.. big TREES  were as if your in plantation pine land there could be 75 stems per load.. in Oregon we averaged 20 to 30.. you want that tight cylinder 14 to 18 inch on the but and 10 to 12 inch tops no knots.. thats money.I have poked around at some timber ground in the east and you pretty much need to be looking at 200 acre plus type sales to have any real volume..