So doing market research on rents independent of seller details, and then I assume, add a clause in the offer about current tenant rate that survives the transaction.Do you have any practical methodology for analyzing operating expenses if the owner doesn’t disclose?

My point is that if you run your numbers razor thin when the market turns down, and it will at some point can, you have to have a buffer to survive the swing.  

It's a get tough business if you want to survive, nice guys finish last mentality, so take the info of value and ignore everything else. 

@Ned Carey  Try being in Orygun were this state feels that we are Orygun everyone wants to be us.. therefore you will bend to whatever BS tax's and rules we have for business.Oregon survives for basically 4 reasons..

No not stole, but used every resource a our disposal to survive the next few weeks and I decided we needed some kind of job.I got 2 jobs.

Thank you for sharing and reminding us that most of our 'problems' pale in comparison to surviving what you did.  

Whether that means John pays or asks for removal is John's business.As far as future conveyances of a property with a lien still attached, as long as the lien survives it retains it's superior power to foreclose.  

A lot of us have been through similar experiences and survived.

However, these are high burnout and high turnover positions where the sales person manages to survive a year 1 out of 10 times ... a very high failure rate for all involved.A more equitable approach works much better.  

I think that was vital to the survival of our first property.