You're comparing apples to oranges, and asking for a number.    

Mindy Jensen Are the Webinars by Brandon available to be downloaded to my iPhone or can you only catch them on the bigger pockets site ?

That is a skill that you as the owner will need to develop otherwise you will try to get bids from contractors and be comparing apples and oranges.

@DianaFerreyra I may be mixing apples and oranges but I really like your HELOC approach vs conv financing and have been considering using ours in the same way. 

However you must be careful in how you present it.(1 1/2 times what they paid for)The above is not true for example because you are comparing apples to oranges.

So January 2017, I told myself I will walk away from my Apple job by August of this year.

I purchased the audio book and am having trouble moving it to my iPhone, anyone have a fix for this?

But at that point we are not comparing apples to apples.

It might be Apple stock, fine, how well can they predict the future of stock prices and risks?

The potential for returns in our market and indeed the cash on cash I have achieved in my portfolio suggests that REI can have more upside; albeit, I am not a passive investor so this is not an apples to apples comparison.