My point is: it's hard to say empirically that the outlook Brian and I share is wrong. 

I sympathize a bit with the agents given so much inventory and little interest in land, but they are putting it in local magazines etc.  

My experience with both of these companies is while they don't present empirical evidence of the rent values , they both have excessive resources and when comparing the rent values they present to the properties already in my portfolio they are pretty accurate. 

But for what ever due diligence issues was not able to close on the majority of them.Had my closing team run title on all the ones I had under contract they would have simply been over worked on things that would have not generated any revenue for anyone.Out of the 2000+ that I have closed less then 5 had title issues that prevented me from closing.Thus the key is to have excellent team around you and if you are new to the area or working with people you don't know make sure you understand what you are doing.As far as your last comment about being a wanna be investor check out the video bellow of a tour of my operation.http://coachingbypeter.com/the-new-office-empire

In our own properties, we have gathered empirical evidence that providing tenants visibility into their resource consumption almost always leads to reduced resource waste {we still get the odd tenant who simply does not care and would rather set the thermostat at 28C than don a sweater}.  

Hello everyone!  My name is Matthew Jones, I am from sunny southern California and I recently became obsessed with the world of real estate investing. I stumbled upon Bigger Pockets via YouTube after watching the podc...

My house was in the Inland empire (which draws military from Camp P and March AFB) and I had a hard time finding a good fit to take over the home. 

When you embark on you real estate empire building journey, you must ask yourself if your primary goal is to fix the societal problems you mentioned above, or if it is to make money.If your primary goal is to help others, you would be better off working with charities.  

I am currently located in the Inland Empire temporary.

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