But in case you don't feel like doing the search and educating yourself, here are the stats in a nut shell:1) Mountain View Ca - Two 4plex buildings next to each other.

Never tried any of the rest, but might now that I had to write them out and think about them. 1) Go to every architect, interior designer, top real estate agents/brokers, loan officers in town and shake hands, drop off do-nuts, take them out for coffee/beer and do it regularly. 2) Hit every REI meeting in town and offer to speak at some about the multifamily and spec building process. 3) You may consider joining and participating in whatever local business communities you are in. 4) Offer referral money to subs. 

Of course we close on everything.. so I get the net listing or the desire to make more than a realtor makes.. but I don't know.. long term seems to me the same amount of marketing money used to build a brokerage in the long run my be easier and more fruitful. 

STOP that is nuts. 

Did you go to the REIA that Grateful Nuts puts on?

I'll work extra, I'll miss out on my family for a few years if it will pay off within 5 years or less, not if I'll not see the fruits of this for 20 years for.retirement. 

@Kai Van LeuvenIt’s sounds like you’ve gotten all the low hanging fruit, another couple things that come to mind Is reducing boring expenses that people typically dont shop or spend alot of time addressing;-taxes ( I don’t know how tuned in the city is to your remodel but you want to spend a little effort ensuring you don’t get hit with a property tax increase )- I’m not sure the type of tenants your looking to attract but a playground might go a long ways to adding value-Insurance ( anything you cad do to reduce your insurance?

Is there a nuts and bolts article on BP that has applied the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) method to the IRS Publications for those of us do not view the IRS Codes as a challenge?    

It's funny you said dont low ball, the min I asked about other offers she has gotten say like 80k she went nuts because she would just hang up on them.

i form a registered llc based on info here on BP nut all my 3 blds are in my name. i dont  have any real money left or 25% for commercial.which loan best to get cash out refi from triplex?