And everything is a trade between time and money.  

@Ella Marie the Pro's are you can build long term wealth, the Cons are you can lose money if you cannot properly quantify risk.

Putting your money into a fund or syndication.

In the latter I would much rather have my money and be in control. 

It’s harder to BRRRR in the Tulsa area now due interest rates, you definitely have to buy at a great discount in order to be all in low enough toget all of your money out and the rents have to be high enough to still cash flow after all expenses (PITI, Mgmt, Vac’s, Rep/Maint, CapEx, HOAs, Util).Based on being “all in” $120K in order to BRRRR and still cash flow at least $300 mo:$120K cash out amount - at 7%/30 yr ($150K+ ARV)PI = $800 mo + Taxes $150 + Ins $150 = $1100mo PITIRENT would have to be at least $2000 mo- $1100 PITI- $200 mgmt (even if self mng, it’s exp for time)- $200 vacancies- $200 Rep/Maint & CapEx= $300 mo cash flow.

Combination of own capital, hard/private money lenders, partnerships and raising outside capital.How do you add value to these deals?

Successful flippers are:- Building relationships with reliable contractors- Ordering materials well in advance- Being strategic about which renovations will truly deliver ROI Regulatory EnvironmentRecent changes to Phoenix building codes have emphasized:- Stricter energy efficiency requirements- More rigorous inspection processes- Additional permits for certain types of renovationsBe prepared for longer permitting timelines than in years past.Financial ConsiderationsThe financing landscape has evolved significantly:- Hard money lenders are offering more competitive rates (7-9%) than the 12-14% seen in 2022- Several Phoenix-specific investment groups have emerged that pool resources for flips- Traditional lenders now offer more renovation loan products tailored specifically to the Arizona marketThe Bottom LineThe Phoenix market in 2025 offers solid opportunity for house flippers who approach projects strategically.

So I did what most serious new investors eventually do and learned how to get private money debt partners and equity partners.

I lost my money, Hope you don't! 

Many of them sell the course at 20k a pop and that is how they “make money in real estate†Sad but true.