But wait there are others sites with the same problems too..so this leads into the conclusion..

What evidence do you have that leads you to this conclusion?

You need to look at a longer-term trend before making that conclusion.

So last week I posted this:http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/52/topics/67520-tenants-former-homeowners-squatters-and-their-rights-to-utilitiesDidn't get the conclusive answer from Holdman that I wanted... so was hoping someone could tell me what exactly defines a tenant.

There's a lot of talk about both Cleveland and Columbus, but I'm wondering if anyone has studied/invested in both markets and come to a solid conclusion of which one is better/preferred, and why?

Those ways, when done properly, result in very powerful conclusion for a Seller or Buyer.  

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Hello BP family,I have tested out multiple marketing streams within the Phoenix market, yet haven't conclusively found the outlets I'd like to put most of my attention into.I am aware that bandit signs, direct mail, and internet marketing can be some of the most powerful- however I am also aware that nuances and niches can come up and allow investors to make money/capitalize on unconventional marketing outlets.My question for you is as follows- Have you found a marketing stream that has brought you surprising results within the Phoenix market or even out-of-state?

My conclusion working in a day job has been we are owed nothing, we are hired guns, we are only owed the last two weeks of pay and seniority means little.  

I guess it really comes down to your final conclusion over the next year or so.