Also sometimes listing the building for sale can stir up the tenants and things have been great so I would prefer not to rock that boat if I don't need to. ps.

I buy plenty of older properties that have newer furnaces, roofs, etc.. that are only a few years old.Not trying to stir the pot but more so just trying to gain a better understanding of what CapEx it is you are referencing. 

I started watching/listening to BiggerPockets a few years ago which stirred my initial interest and want to finally jump into the community to learn and grow and become a real estate investor.I currently don't have any related experience in real estate outside of some light contracting work I did as a carpenter's apprentice and some demolition work a decade ago.

Wow, I am late to this party put I see it has stirred al very complex discussion.

Just wanted to stir the pot on this post. 

Was just curious, trying to stir my mind for some thoughts and ideas.

Just want to stir up your creativity bc as @Marty Sprong pointed out, you did ask for suggestions on "creative financing". 

So this is an attempt to get conversation stirred up.

They will get you to a direction that you will need to stir your future on your own.

Be careful not to stir up fair housing issues with refusing to allow him to sign a long term lease.