Hi All,  just heard about this site. 

I'd like to not "find out the hard way" if one of these sites are not a good match for me.The ones I'm considering are Propstream, Property Radar, ListSource, and PropwireSomething to note, I am looking to return to doing some wholesale deals, using criteria such as absentee owner, out of state owner, tax delinquent, vacant, liens, and pre-foreclosure..

Simple appreciation is a gamble because you have no control over it, so don't consider it.

I will definitely take a look at that site. 

I'm having a hard time finding any estimating tools for this kind of a project, adding a story and multiple BR/1 BA, and wondered if there were any tools, sites or recommendations any of you have for this kind of a project. 

If you can rehab your way into a house-hack of a small multifamily and live on site, I think that would allow you to improve your cash flow by getting a short-term rental license even though the city is making it harder to do STRs.

The site we want is for sale, zoned correctly, priced right.One problem.  

I went to sign up on the advice of a friend and realized I had signed up 11 years ago and never used the site.

Currently in the process of getting other sites ranked.

For something more robust, tools like Excel or online calculators from financial planning sites might better suit your needs.Your ROI Formula:ROI = (Net Cash Flow ÷ Total Out-of-Pocket Investment) × 100For your scenario:Net Cash Flow = Annual Rental Income - (Mortgage Payment + 401k Loan Payment + Other Expenses)Total Out-of-Pocket Investment = $40,000 cash + $50,000 loan payments over 5 years.I came across a piece in Bloomberg recently discussing creative financing, and they touched on ROI calculations for multiple loans.Personal anecdote: A buddy of mine leveraged a 401k loan for a fourplex.