Hi Mark,This is the first time I am using them and so far, so good.  

I am using Farmers for my three investment properties, with an umbrella policy for liability.

What's the typical KPI you expect in your business, I think the list I am using might have some issues as this KPI is so low.Additionally Does anyone have a kpi of how large a list you need to secure 1 wholesale deal?

A few minutes googling will likely provide the court some amusing evidence in your favor.

But if hes just trolling like u said its actually kind of amusing now lol.

All of your data and previous examples relate to technology that augmented humans and changed non-thought work and middle men (amusing to think of a travel agent as a skilled job).

All were Tax-free as I am using the Carry Forward Deductions that I have from losing 5 properties to Short Sales where I got Letters of Forgiveness from the Banks and one was my Residence.

However, thanks for the amusement of the day.

The problem is that I am using a HELOC to assist with the downpayment for the loan.

I would be very careful treading into the coaching/guru ocean lots of sharks and promoters Would also say I enjoyed section 8 landlording in my 20's for an ideal retirement absolutely not for me but if you are looking for amusement welcome to the show you will not get bored watching tv all day, golfing or traveling like your friends for sure.Reach out if you have any specific questionsJon Bock, CPA