I called around to a couple of agencies and when I ask them if any agents also invest they take offense.

[side rant] - I'm also of the opinion though that if you don't at least try it on your own then you'll never have an appreciation for how convoluted our tax code is and you end up believing the hype that certain TV Celebrities turned Politicians cheat on their taxes which leads to bad decisions in the voting booth (not to get all political or anything).I do appreciate your feedback and suggestions though and I hope there's no offense.

We are hoarding cash, shifting from offense to defense by pausing evictions and doing zero-increase renewals to save NTVs. 

Not being offensive here.

I prefer meat and potatoes over sloppy soup.In this biz, you also have to have a tad of thick skin, taking offense so easily on this board will slow your roll.

Sub-literate scrawl can be offensive to those who have actually studied formal systems of cursive writing.

I have been told, “you’re wasting my time”, “no one will sell for that”, “that’s an offensive offer”, “what is your max?”

I remain convinced that there are worse ways to make a buck in real estate, far more offensive to God, than by giving superstitious people a little thrill.

@Devin James if you're on the offensive side of the ball you better know how to read a defense or you're getting hammered at the line. 

Sure it cost me $1500 and 50 hours, but now I'm not relying on useless agents (and no offense, there are some good buyers agents, but not many), and I can access any property I want, can run comps on my own, can make as many low-ball offers as I want.Why rely on someone else?