Now, there's no legal recourse left for them so they fall back on 'patriotism' or 'morality' to try to encourage borrowers to keep paying.If they wanted to play the 'moral' angle from the start, don't have a written contract but just take my word for it and seal the deal with a handshake.

Ron Trinh I’d never go out of state for an investment, if that, I’d play the stock market, a much more safer bet.

Networking is nice, but I'm not trying to play the guru game

If that does not work...play the lottery.

@Andrew Bourgeois  My understanding of a heat pump (air to air not geothermal) is they are still plug and play.  The

Thoughts on how to handle this and whether it's best to play the field with brokers or work with a buyers broker who represents you on all deals?

@Rick Baggenstoss  one of the major points ( not sure if anyone made it in this thread as its very old)is especially for West coast and specifically for CA and Seattle and some Portland homeowners.there properties have increased by 500k or much more.. and the 500k Is the only tax treatment that is truly TAX FREE... as opposed to rentals.. you end up having to play the roll up game.. and refi until you die game. to get your cash out.So for me personally if your west coast based and or other markets that can see high run ups in value .. the personal residence can be your NUMBER 1 investment. 

By being creative, you can play the game of real estate investing by using what is called Option's investing.

I will make my next move through refinancing the property.I guess I just play the waiting game for now.

Some of them take advantage of the fact they have more audacity and physical strength than their clients, and play the bully.