Getting to 80% ARV, which is an 80 LTV cash out, is pretty much unheard of, or you're going to be searching for a while for that 'needle in the haystack' community bank/cu or something like that.

But those cash on cash returns if 20% in South Florida is like finding a needle in a hay stack.

Finding homes in the Sub 30K price range is about like a needle in a hay stack in my market.

To do such a thing, you must either find that needle in the haystack, or create relationships with those capable of delivering product at such discounted prices.

You will have truly found the needle in a haystack.

One word comes to mind "UNREALISTIC".Get these calls multiple times a week.Looking for a new shopping center with a grocery anchor where we can close quick and pay cash and want to buy 50 cents on the dollar for present value.A investor will look all year to MAYBE find that needle in a hay stack ONCE.When they find it multiple offers will come in and the chances are slim to none of them getting it.I don't work with time wasters like this.Think about it this way.If I have hundreds of cash investors waiting to buy for cash at going in CAP rates of 10 to 14 percent then why is a seller going to sell for a 20 to 30 cap going in??

It is the proverbial needle in the haystack.

As in other types of investments, this is akin to looking for a needle in a haystack.

I don't know about in your area, but I can't see how getting govt. grants to re-do commercial projects aren't any less a needle in the haystack than doing bread-and-butter SFR flips.

Billy its tough to find any cashflow around here, you can but, its a needle in a haystack.