In this town a basic 2 bedroom unfurnished house with no bills paid goes for $350-$400 per month. 

But living debt free, in a house that you own with no mortgage, no commute, spending more time with your family, being in touch with nature in a smog free environment on daily basis, and no bills crushing you every month - some people see value in that.

As much as you or I would like it to be black or white what they are saying is they think the HUD interpretation is mainly from Anglo-Saxon values where people aren't supposed to share bedrooms with the opposite sex, but that in other cultures they do so that using HUD is discriminatory.

With no bills and either free and clear home OR rental, my figures show 4-5K would be MORE than adaquate.

When Clinton promises to make their voices heard, she's appealing not to Anglo-Saxon racial triumphalism but to the fear of white decline.Granted, not everyone who fits under the rubrics of "white, working class, not college educated" is going to vote against Obama.

How do you make your money Mr. nobility?

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@Aaron MikottisAaron, I've known poor people of a nobility of spirit that I suspect you are incapable of comprehending just yet.

:) No  - @Bill G. will win this one...LOL

I still have no bills so I can still plan to live below my means somthing alot don't do.