But that is all gone now drink very little these days if at all but I wont totally quit I have too much expensive wine :).my Routine  7am walk the dog 40 minutes  go right down into my basement gym  treadmill 30 minutes at brisk pace but incline 4 to 10 degrees then I might do the strider for 20 minutes and then the biks for another 20 minutes or like today walk dog 30 minutes tread mill 30  bike.. crunchs squats and normally some weights but i got a pinched nerve and its affecting that aspect.. then I sit against the wall in teh chair for 90 seconds trying to get that to 2 minutes started at 30 seconds a few months ago. 

Interestingly, the timing presented a challenge as two potential deals emerged simultaneously, creating a bit of a crunch.

It might sound like it will cashflow but in reality it might nothaving a PM will be about 8-10% of the rent + landlord insurance + $60K down + 2-4% for closing costsI am on board with appreciation and buying now and waiting instead of waiting to buy but I would just be extra conservative when number crunching

I am a first time real estate investor looking the following property : https://www.redfin.com/OR/Forest-Grove/2418-Cedar-Cir-97116/...its a pretty large duplex in Forest Grove OR,  the trick is though, its on a lot zoned for a 4 plex so I am lookinginto house hacking, converting into a triplex, then living in one unit while renting out the remaining two unitsThe left garage has been converted to living space, with a living room, half bath, a laundry room with a sink and some counters/cupboards and a bedroom, it is a part of what was an existing 3bd unitIf I were to acquire the asset, I would first attempt to convert that space into its own unit The line items as I see (be in mind, I am totally new to this) would be to >put up dry wall where the door to the rest of the house is,>add a shower to the half bathroom >install a water heater in the adjacent 3bd unit> install a kitchen in the laundry room, (stove , oven , sink, counter space)>add a shower to the half bath Assuming I can convert it to a 3plex, I could at-least cash flow on my investment after I leave My plan would be to put minimum down payment of 3.5% (FHA loan) that way I can have a decent amount of capital free to do the renovationsThe only concern is when I crunch the numbers to get my ROI, I have no idea how much its going to cost to convert the additional living space to a third unitAny experienced investors here know how I can estimate this before I try to make an offer?

Currently I'm not connected to anyone that is and now it's reaching crunch time.

What database did you find most useful to crunch numbers on if a property is a good deal for a rental investment.

I've crunched the numbers and if I could purchase three four-plexes in the next ten years, that would give me the financial independence I'm looking for."2.

I've got my eye on crunching numbers with the Debt Service Coverage Ratio (DSCR) to keep ahead of any potential market dips.Cheers,Keeya

The way that I've always approached this depends on where I'm at with the numbers that I crunched when entering into the purchase.

Thanks Dave, if any of those were an option Id have done itThis was a miscalculation on my part though which has left me in a last minute crunch.