At one point he was working to buy a piece of Oceanpointe so he could operate as a principal but that fell apart before it came to fruition...........More info on this dropping at a later time.

After working like dogs literally all the time (I left my house at 6am yesterday for my full time job and my husband and I didn't get home until 10pm after working on our business), we have now 5 rental properties.  3...

None of which have come to fruition in the 8+ years Zillow has been in operation.

Long time Utahns have pointed out that Ogden has been the great white hope for as long as they can remember but never come to fruition.  

If you don't even have your "ticket to play the game" then any dreams/hopes can't come to fruition with acquiring a rental. 

@Wendy Fate it sounds like you already have an amazing family in place with all the key components to bring this project to fruition.

Scott Scheel mentions that for bigger properties it is tough to get a good deal in markets that are already showing good indications of future growth (either already in the process of growing, or showing the "obvious" increases in population/job growth) He says the best deals are frequently found in weak or even declining markets where you have much better leverage with sellers.This is a risky proposition because real estate trends seem to last quite a while, but if timed correctly an investor can do much better than average by getting in early before the rest of the herd does.Do you guys have any ideas of how to anticipate a potential turnaround area before the census data refects it (IMO this data is a beacon to RE investors) I have a couple ideas I think may be worth looking into:-Projected inflow of large, new employer-New transportation artery-Unaccounted change (in census data) of demographics (undesirables moving out, nicer crowd moving in)-Perhaps a well structured conversation with someone at the economic planning department to find out how close to fruition some upcoming changes are taking place.

You never know when these relationships will come to fruition.

It's almost come to fruition.

Remembering that each market is independent and I think price point of the home and rental price point absolutely factor into the rates at which rents are being collected, so far the worst case scenarios have not come to fruition.