I just don't think the squeeze is worth the juice.

Take the top 5 stocks in the S&P out of the equation and see what the P/E ratio is.  

Also, having the ability to write offers, e-sign them and put together offer packages with all the forms you need....isn't that a value?

(or, again, maybe we're missing something - let us know.)take this thread as an example.https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/927/topics/1224249-my-e...that poster shelled out probably 80-85K in cash to be.... negative each month on what seems like a pretty solid property. 

Just PM me your e-mail.It NEVER was about the HELOC - that's only one option.

Go find the current Price/Earnings ratio P/E for the stock markets. 

It just shows up on your schedule e like a regular property.Other benefits are: limited liability/asset protection, reasonable minimum investment ($100k usually).Note that these do have risks just like any real estate and they are only available to accredited investors.

Quote from @Derrick E.: To answer one of your questions, I doubt you will ever find someone willing to give a loan in 2nd position on an investment property. 

(the amount of learning/education I complete in the next few months may influence the price and market location as I research potential deals and cash flow opportunities)E.

For sure PG&E requires this for gas and electric, and I think most jurisdictions require it for water and sewer as well.