If the owner lives in town, you could even go knock on their door, I find this to be extremely successful when you are going after foreclosed properties.As to your 1st post, you might want to look at city data for growing markets, It looks like Rochester lost population last year, vs if you look at sunbelt cities like, Houston, DFW, Austin, Miami, Orlando, Tampa, these cities saw at a minimum 1% population increase.

Maybe a garage conversion or ADU. 

I have a big garage that has electricity and plumbing already and has a second floor.

Focus on building strong relationships and networking in your local market—having the right connections and a solid reputation can open doors to opportunities that don’t require perfect credit.

Congrats on adding more doors!

@Dan N.These types of strategies is like building a conveyer belt between your home and your neighbors in order to borrow sugar from your neighbor instead of just walking there, knocking on the door and ask for sugar.Making these overly complex strategies for real estate really adds zero benefit and just costs you extra money in the long run.May I ask why you need such a complex structure ?

that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases.

I have a few door in Cali right now but pushing into TN I've put in 8 offers in 3 days with rehab budgets ranging from 20k to 55k.

Even with today's interest rates, I'm still looking to apply the same strategy:Buy a cosmetic fixer upper with the potential to convert an existing space into an ADU (ex: detached garages) in a great area within <20 mins from a trauma 1 hospital.

More doors more rent get a better return without having to use a HELOC maybe a cash out refinance instead?