Actually time working on it around 6 months mostly myself with a lot of horrible contractors.

It was in horrible shape.

2) Appraisers are horrible at judging value.  

Sorry, but this sounds like a horrible deal for you.

My experience with Hughesnet was horrible-for 6 years I had no choice and I had their most expensive plan.

Also, some people are great flippers, but horrible landlords.

I have also seen total asset value used which is also a pretty horrible metric as it ignores leverage.Why unit count is flawed:A luxury rental in an A-class market is likely worth 10+ entry-level units in a D-market.It ignores partnerships and syndication.

And they chose the less qualified applicant because they didn’t have a kid he did a horrible job of hiring an agent.

If I offer someone Fannie AND "alternative" with horrible rates/fees, the number of people who think I'm trying to scam them (and, thus, take their business elsewhere entirely) is actually higher than the extra business I pick up by offering that alternative.

The rehabs in LV are horrible.