We do not do class D investing, but know people who do it well and profitably.As the saying goes, the riches are in the niches.Thanks for sharing the story and prompting the dialogue which I've enjoyed reading.

Would love any feedback if you feel inclined to read it.Would love to connect if you find any value there, and continue a dialogue if you see benefit in that. 

They all said similar dialogue that from experience going after tenants is a dead end and judgement may not get collected. 

If you can start a dialogue with the other party you might be able to come to terms faster then throwing numbers at them! 

The past year has super charged or added negative connotations to some words and  I get why people try to change the dialogue.

The street grid of my old Athens neighborhood aligns with the summer sun -- this was laid out in classical times and is actually mentioned in one of Plato's dialogues.

It's also important to ask specific and direct questions to bring out real dialogue, so even though we might only talk for 30 minutes, I dig into all the important aspects of living together.

I have no intention of further dialogue with you. 

it is totally within the landlords right to have them either sign a new 12 month lease, or allow them to stay month to month, just as it is the tenants right to leave with 30 days notice.I have had some people on month to month for several years, it doesn't bother them and it doesn't bother me,,but 'forcing' them to sign a 12 month lease is simply exercising a landlords right to end the current agreement with 30 days notice.If its a good tenant I would talk to them, but telling them you really need a 12 month lease, which isn't 100% truthful, is possible a better solution than saying "sign a 12 month lease or your out in 30 days",,this way you get a dialogue with the tenant and you find out what really fits both of the parties needs.andy

Putting the cart before the horse kind of thing.After reading some dialogue in this post from pros who've been in the game for a while, consulting my local pros, and my my multiple phone consulting experiences with them, I don't think it's necessary for a newbie to go  broke hiring Anderson Business Advisers.About Robert LaFrance- Veteran Navy Diver/Instructor developing/delivering adult education curriculum, B.S. in Workforce Education and Development (business planning, training/skills gap analysis working directly with Pres. of Company), and independent licensed real estate agent.