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All Forum Posts by: Eddie Ziv

Eddie Ziv has started 42 posts and replied 1603 times.

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:
"Where do you see any mention to Al Qaueda in the whole Free Gaza site!!???"

IHH. And it wasn't any US news media outlet that picked up on the IHH connection to Al Qaeda first. I'm going to let you practice your mad research skills and tell me who first reported on this link.


Oh Please!! Where do you see the connection between the IHH and Al Qaueda?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHH_(%C4%B0nsani_Yard%C4%B1m_Vakf%C4%B1)

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Originally posted by Tom Cullen:


Hmmm. Here is a montage of what you've said. Certainly gives a different impression:

"It [the attack] is all political BS and it happened in international water. Israel likes too often to show who's the boss. Nothing more"

"I can tell you that this operation does not reflect what is right but what is right to that particular government"

So now you are "moving the goal posts" and saying you are just against the way the attack was carried out. Okay.

Israel stopped Hamas activists from running a blockade set up to prevent arms going into Gaza to be purposely used against civilians. Yeah, they probably should have done it differently. But that's arm-chair quarterbacking.

BTW, there is reportedly more vessels en route to run the blockade. Torpedos anyone?

TC

P.S. Yes, in fact I am a military retiree and spent 20 years. I started out in the Army. I got kicked out though. They caught me playing with my privates. I finished up in the Navy. I was linguist and worked in cryptology. Like the guys your country murdered on the USS Liberty! Babie killers!

NO Tom, I'm not moving the goal post! I still believe that Israel should have not attacked in international water, I know the players very well. Netanyahu, his father, Liberman and the rest of fascist gang.
I also know that Free Gaza organization is not free of any prejudice itself.
If a commando unit gets beat up with clubs and crow bars, something is wrong with the way that operation was conducted, especially if it ends up with 9 dead.

This is very systematic even within Israel. When Jews demonstrate, they are met with rubber bullets and tear gas. When Arabs demonstrate, including Israeli citizens, there always some who dies...

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:
Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:
No Tim. You need to search better. You keep bringing claims without any support. I at least quoted your favorite news outlet FAUX News!


Put this in your pipe and smoke it:

http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/press-releases/1171-second-ship-joins-the-freedom-flotilla-on-way-to-gaza

As I said, Free Gaza openly admitting their association with IHH, and now openly stating their flotilla was a "blockade busting" flotilla. This is was intended to be an assault on the blockade while providing aid to the enemy. This is an open act of war.

Now Eddie - provide one single fact to back up your challenges to ANYTHING I have said in this thread. One thing! I challenge you yet again to do that.


Tim, what the hell are you talking about!!??? Here is your quote:
"You need to do your research better Eddie. It wasn't Israel that first revealed the activists connection to Al Qaeda. It was the Free Gaza movement that first publicized the connection through the IHH.

Where do you see any mention to Al Qaueda in the whole Free Gaza site!!???
Israel knows that all they have to do is throw the word Al Qaeda around to get American support. There is no one iota of proof that Al Quaeda was involved.

Israel and Free Gaza both use cheap propaganda to gain support in their own respective turf. It's pathetic!!!

Again, either you're naive or just like to play into your own beliefs,

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Originally posted by Tom Cullen:
Please, spare me...
I lived in Israel all the first 30 years of my life


What the hell does that prove?

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Sounds like John Kerry. He served in Viet Nam. Protested with lefties like Jane Fonda against the war afterwards. And he didn't have a clue either. I'm sure I could find somebody who fought in Yom Kapur, and lived in Israeli longer than you who DISAGREES strongly with your quick condemnation of Israel, apparently in favor of HAAAAAMAS activists!

Hamas has the destruction of Israel as part of their freaking charter! Weapons have been smuggled into Gaza and used to purposely target and kill Israeli civilians. As a result, Israel with the help of Eygpt, started a blockade of Gaza. Do you have a problem with that? Let's start there.

TC

Tom, have you ever served your country? I never liked John Kerry. I have actually meat him and thought he was pompous and detached, but he had all the rights to fight this stupid policy which lead the US to the quagmire called Vietnam. Whether you agree with his politics or not, discounting his service was the lowest point of the conservative movement.

Now to your argument. I never said that Israel did not have the right to stop that ship. Like the US, Israel is a pluralistic society. You can find variety of views from the far right to the far left. I know exactly who is Hamas and what they stand for, My beef with this operation is the way it was handled. In a matter of fact, that operation cause more harm to Israel than good. Israel could have surrounded those ships with much larger force and should have used water cannons to "soften the target" prior to storming the boats. The fact that 9 people were killed showed that the Israelis were forced to use means that they shouldn't have used in the first place.

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:
You need to do your research better Eddie. It wasn't Israel that first revealed the activists connection to Al Qaeda. It was the Free Gaza movement that first publicized the connection through the IHH.
No Tim. You need to search better. You keep bringing claims without any support. I at least quoted your favorite news outlet FAUX News!
How can I bring "credible source" to counter something you did not provide any reference to?
Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:
I ask you again to find one credible source to counter what I have posted. And no - compulsory service tank commanding over a quarter of a century ago does not give you the power to "just know".

Well, that may be so, but I served my country at the time in the best way and if to use that logic, since you didn't serve your country at all, I guess you shouldn't have the power to criticize yours at all... And when I say country, I mean government...

Post: Hyper Inflation - How Does It Affect Real Estate Investment?

Eddie ZivPosted
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I used to think that we are 2-3 years before we hit inflation big time (if not hyper inflation), until I saw trouble is brewing in Europe. Japan is not in good shape either, so who's left? Emerging economies, right? China, India, Brazil... well, not so fast. Those countries did not developed solid domestic markets yet, they solely depend on US and Europe to be their markets, but if US and Europe are in trouble, those countries soon to follow.
I think Stagflation now rather than inflation.

BTW, MikeHO, entitlement is not something the government shove into people's throats. It is what people demand. As I said many times before, find me a law maker who is openly promoting cuts in Medicate, SS benefits, or any other entitlement program while his or her constituents are heading to the polls. I still remember the shouts in town meeting last summer: "Don't you dare touch my Medicare!!"

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:
Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:
The Israeli government should make you a spokesman since you take whatever they say as the ultimate truth...


Cite me one credible source to counter that story Eddie. None of your opinion. Cite me fact.

Don't worry. I'll wait.

Why should I find a credible source when you couldn't find one... Is the Israeli government your credible source...? Please, spare me...
I lived in Israel all the first 30 years of my life, I served as an infantry in 1972 and a tank commander between 1973-1975. I was in Sinai peninsula in Yom Kippur war and saw the demonstrations that followed that war. I know Israeli politics in and out. You rcannot eally tell me anything new.

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Originally posted by Rich Weese:
Eddie- civil reply . Thank you. I know you probably won't, but I challenge you to read Malkins' book, check the back up info in all the footnotes. You'll either find something to dispute, or, it will scare the living hell out of you. I promise.Rich.

Rich, Once again, I don't really appreciate people who put their political ideology in front of their narrative. This not exclusively to the right but to the left as well. Not that those people tell lies, but they emphasize and amplify the facts that fits their agenda while disregarding or minimizing the ones that don't. I would pay more attention to the ones who are willing to criticize equally both sides.
I'm a registered independent. If I see someone who makes sense to me, be it democrat or republican, I'll go with it.

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Originally posted by Tim Wieneke:
Well well well..... It turns out 3 of these "humanitarian" activists have "murky" ties to Al-Qaeda. You remember Al-Qaeda right? That international humanitarian organization. Clearly they were on this ship with the intention of bringing Al-Qaeda's message of peace, love and tolerance to Gaza.

Congratulations liberals. In your rapid haste to hate Israel, you have come down on the side of Al-Qaeda rather than our allies.

The Israeli government should make you a spokesman since you take whatever they say as the ultimate truth... As a guy who doesn't trust the government, I take that you would trust any government as long as it's not the US government .. Hmmm.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/05/30/reports-israeli-ships-attack-aid-flotilla-dead/

Post: Gotta love media standards....

Eddie ZivPosted
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Contrary to what you think, I'm not a liberal. To me Rachel Medow and Keith Olbermann are almost as bad as Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. I don't like BS period whether it's coming from the left or from the right. I don't view CNN as liberal although I agree that it is slightly left of the middle. However, CNN is very critical of president Obama with regard to it's treatment and response to the Oil spil.