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All Forum Posts by: Zach Kirkton

Zach Kirkton has started 13 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: SEO results 1 year in!!!

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Jerryll Noorden:
Quote from @Zach Kirkton:

Hello, who in here is outsourcing SEO for lead generation? How long did it take you to start getting leads? It's been almost 1 full year since I first hired a company to run SEO for me. I've spent $36,000 and have not gotten any leads! The SEO is running in two different markets, both of which are 1 hour apart. In the smaller market, I am ranked on the first page, which is great, but I'm not getting any leads. For both markets, I have multiple 5 star reviews, but not getting any leads after spending this amount of money is very frustrating. 

I have monthly meetings with the company, and I do see improvement as far as my ranking for certain keywords and traffic to my site. Does anybody have any similar experience or the exact opposite experience? Is this common to go this long without results? I'd hate to stop the service now after spending $36k if I could be close to some inbound leads, but I also don't want to keep spending this amount of money for no results. 

The company I use says they are having great success in other competitive markets, and my trends as far as traffic, website clicks, time on page, etc mirror the markets they are successful in. 

Any advice is appreciated!

 Here is why you can't hire an SEO company to do SEO for you.

The inherent principle of SEO "Ranking #1 on the search engines" goes completely against it.

Here's why.

SEO is about optimizing your website to rank #1 on the search engines right?

Good,

BUT, in order to rank #1, Google needs to see that you provide the most value to its traffic.

The most value is not given by getting backlinks, citations, and "blogging". The most value is given by having a great website that is easy to navigate, easy to find the content you are looking for while the content is presented in a logical order, is enticing to go through, and solves the problem the traffic is there for in the first place.

So ANY SEO company that doesn't actually DEAL, with making your site have all of this, is simply a scam.

Most/all? SEO companies just take your existing crappy website, and do back-end stuff to it, like link building, and blogging. That is NOT what "value" means to your motivated seller.

So in order to hire an SEO company to do it for you. they would have to take EVERY SINGLE ONE of their clients and construct a completely unique website that is each awesome in its unique way.

IMPOSSIBLE!!

IM-GODANG-POSSIBLE!

Let's verify my claims:

I am willing to bet, all they did was shove crappy backlinks down your website's throat. Let's see..

Yup.. I knew it. It NEVER fails. All these stupid clown SEO companies are giving this entire space a bad rep. Check this out:

Here is your backlink profile, compared to mine.

Mind you, I don't do backlinks. My backlinks are organic. I don't pay people to give me or get me backlinls. My backlinks just happen because my website actually organically provides value/

So what you are looking at here is this:

I have 800 backlinks, you have 1000

You have 550 unique websites giving you backlinks (as opposed to having multiple backlinks from the same website). Unique website backlinks is always better... YET, I only have 129 unique backlinks 

So in numbers, you FAR outnumber me.

However, look at your Domain rating.

Your domain rating pretty much shows you how strong your domain name is compared to other websites.

Although you have far more links, my domain rating is 49, while yours is just 9.

How come?

When you look at your backlinks they are crap. They don't give anyone landing on these links any value.

If you do not get rid of each and every one of them you WILL get penalized by Google. So in other words, you paid $36K to have DAMAGE done to your domain name.

You are not the exception. This is STANDARD, EVERY single SEO company does this.

It is not me being an egotistical maniac talking crap about other SEO companies just because they are competing in the same space. This is 100% FACTS Data.

There is a reason I do not do SEO for other people. I teach others how to do it because that is the ONLY way it will be effective.

You need to stop paying them, demand your money back, and have them Disavow all these backlinks.

None of this is doing you any good.


 Thanks Jerryll this is very insightful. I have zero experience or knowledge when it comes to the SEO space which is why I hired it out. I knew I was going to have to be in this for the long haul, but after reading your responses you are mentioning organic traffic to be the best. If I fix all of the things in my website that you mention on this thread, how can I start to compete with some of these larger companies in an already competitive market who have been running SEO much longer than I have been?

One thing I forgot to mention in my original post was that this company provides a google sheet which updates in real time with the people who visit my website providing name, address, and email. Virtually none of these visitors are in our targeted area which is very odd.

Post: SEO results 1 year in!!!

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Jerryll Noorden:

SEO done on a nationwide level.. ah excuse me, a globally is done completely wrong.

Without exaggeration I have yet to see ONE SEO company do SEO correctly.

Everyone, in this space is set out to "trick" Google into ranking them #1.

How? Keyword strategies, blogging, backlinking, citations, "content is king". NONE of this matters they way people are making you think it matters.

There is ONE thing that matters and that is showing Google (and all the search engines) that your website gives the search engine's traffic the most value.

Think about it.

Imagine Google ALWAYS ranking complete garbage #1, while Yahoo always ranking the site that offers the most value #1.

Which platform would you rather use? Google (that always ranks garbage #1, or Yahoo that always ranks the perfect site #1?

Obviously Yahoo right?

So what happens if everyone stops going to Google and instead turn to Yahoo?

Google goes bankrupt.

So in other words, there is NOTHING a search engine wants more than to rank the BEST site #1.

It is not about the correct site, or the site with the most blogs, or the site that is updated 3 times a week or the site with the most or the best backlinks.

It is the site that is proven to make the search engine's traffic HAPPY.

So now focus.

Do you really think that when a motivated seller lands on my website they care about how many backlinks I have? How about how many words my blog has, or how many keywords I have on my site?

NO. They don't give a crap.

They care about how trustwworthy you are, how compitent you are, how much pleasure it would be to work with you.

THAT is what matters.

So every SEO company what do they do? Backlinking this, backlinking that, citations this, citations that, time on page, bounce rate blah blah blah.

The question then becomes, HOW in the world do you let Google know that your website offered the most value.

Time on page? Click through rate? Bounce rate?

No, No no and NO

The ONLY metric that truly matters is how many leads that website generates.

If you get far more leads than any other website in your market, to Google it meas that you obviously have the website that people PREFER, that gives more value. Why? Because no one would enter their personal and private information into a website UNLESS the website offered them something they truly wanted. No one fills in the forms for fun or charity.

Now do you understand that you can NOT hire an SEO company to do SEO for you. Not even the best known famous or popular ones. My students that know nothing about SEO is beating the living crap out of all these famous popular SEO "expert" agencies out there.

I am sure you all have seen our logo everywhere on the bottom of the #1 ranking websites nationwide. They did it themselves by solely focusing on what I have mentioned here.

Forget SEO agencies. If you truly want to dominate your market, SEO has to be done by you.

You don't have to become my student, you can do it on your own yourself and for free!

I am willing to bet that all these people did was giving you shady backlinks.

Let's do this.

Send me your website and I will publicly dissect it telling you exactly what was done right, wrong, and what is actually doing damage and what you are missing.

That way everyone on the forum can see why I and my students dominate our markets, and the best thing is, you don't have to pay for this. 


 Hey Jerryll, thank you for all this insight. I'd love to take you up on this. Here is my website:

https://essentialequityrealestate.com/

Post: SEO results 1 year in!!!

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Beth Bannor:

Hi Zach, I'm sorry to hear you are spending all that money and not getting any leads. I have a few questions for you:

1. Has the traffic increased to your site for the various keywords you are targeting? 

2. Do you have a Google Business Profile for your business? This is free.

3. Can you post a link to your site so I can take a look?

4. Is the seo company real estate investor specific or general seo?


 Hi Beth,

1. Yes the traffic has increased to my site for the keywords we are targeting

2. Yes, I do have a Google business profile 

3. https://www.essentialequityrealestate.com/

4. Yes they are real estate investor specific 


Post: SEO results 1 year in!!!

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4

Hey Ethan, it was a newly formed company when I started working with them. They did not have very many reviews during my initial discussion with them, and they still don't unfortunately. I know SEO takes time to develop, other companies I talked with before making a decision on who to move forward with gave me pretty similar answers of about 6 months before I'd see any results.

Post: SEO results 1 year in!!!

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4

Hello, who in here is outsourcing SEO for lead generation? How long did it take you to start getting leads? It's been almost 1 full year since I first hired a company to run SEO for me. I've spent $36,000 and have not gotten any leads! The SEO is running in two different markets, both of which are 1 hour apart. In the smaller market, I am ranked on the first page, which is great, but I'm not getting any leads. For both markets, I have multiple 5 star reviews, but not getting any leads after spending this amount of money is very frustrating. 

I have monthly meetings with the company, and I do see improvement as far as my ranking for certain keywords and traffic to my site. Does anybody have any similar experience or the exact opposite experience? Is this common to go this long without results? I'd hate to stop the service now after spending $36k if I could be close to some inbound leads, but I also don't want to keep spending this amount of money for no results. 

The company I use says they are having great success in other competitive markets, and my trends as far as traffic, website clicks, time on page, etc mirror the markets they are successful in. 

Any advice is appreciated!

Post: Central IL Active Investors / Agents!!!!

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4

Hello, I'm a wholesaler in South Eastern WI and an active investor. I'm looking at expanding to Central IL, I've run a few test campaigns to the Bloomington/Normal and Peoria areas and it looks like there is some good opportunity. If you are an active investor/agent and doing deals in these areas please reach out to me. I'm likely going to be closing on a small multi unit in this area in the next few weeks. I'd love to connect with investors and agents to see what you are looking for, make some connections, network, and to get more familiar with the market. I'm originally from this area and am back here often throughout the year. Agents, please don't let me being a wholesaler defer you from reaching out, I work with a lot of agents in the Milwaukee area and will absolutely make this a win win. I look forward to hearing from you!

Post: Advanced Podio Buildout?!

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4

Hello, I'm wondering if anyone out there has had their Podio CRM built out to an advanced extent. I'm talking funnels, marking leads hot/cold, automatic reminders, etc. 

Post: How Are You Structuring Your Partnerships?

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4

Thanks for your input John, I appreciate it. 

Post: How Are You Structuring Your Partnerships?

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4

Hello, I'm a wholesaler and have a few of my own LTRs, but have recently been talking with a buyer who've I've developed a solid relationship with about partnering on some properties/portfolios instead of wholesaling to him. I understand partnerships can be structured however you and your partner(s) deem most appropriate, but if I'm not bringing any money to the table, but am finding the deals through my own marketing dollars and negotiating prices, what would you think is a fair split in rent profits and profits of the future sale of the properties? Is 50/50 too aggressive on my end? I'd love to hear your thoughts and how you have succeeded in structuring your partnerships!

I could break this down even further, we've been looking at a 3M portfolio with potential to buy another 4M, again, I wouldnt be bringing any money. Do you think 90/10 is too lean on my end or fair considering the size of the purchase?

How about one off properties or a couple, with prices ranging from 60k - 250k? Maybe create a separate LLC with a more even split?

Post: Bloomington/Normal Title Companies

Zach Kirkton
Pro Member
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Milwaukee, WI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 4

Hello, I am a wholesaler and doing some marketing in Bloomington/Normal IL. Does anybody know of any wholesale friendly title companies in the area?