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All Forum Posts by: Will Porter

Will Porter has started 9 posts and replied 111 times.

Post: How do you scale your business so quick?

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41

@Brandon Hicks this has been a great read and thanks so much for all the info so far. I think I understand this correctly but I'm hoping you can confirm the process:

  • Buyer and seller agree to owner finance and decide on sales price, amortization, interest rate, and balloon schedule
  • Buyer allows seller to "keep" his portion of tax payments, and his rent income for the month of closing (the 'credits')
  • Seller transfers the tenants' security deposits to buyer
  • Back these credits out of the sales price to get the actual note amount and actual monthly payment
  • Sit pretty for a few years on your cash flow
  • When balloon is due, go to a big institutional lender and cash-out refinance to pay the balloon.
  • Profit!

So it sounds really simple but it raises a big question... what if the market tanks and you can't get that necessary re-fi when the balloon is due?

Post: Best campaign for direct mail results?

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Steve Buchanan:

@Michael Quarles 

 I'm in listsource and trying to filter for 7 year ownership. The only criteria I'm finding is "length of residence". That can't be it can it?

Look for "Last Sale Date" or something similar. Set that to range from 1900 to 7 years ago (e.g., 1/1/1900 to 1/1/2008).

If it hasn't sold in the last 7 years, that means they have at least 7 years of ownership.

Post: Direct mail -- how can I narrow this list?

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Antonio Coleman:

@Will Porter I will target the entire list but try to educate them instead of asking to buy their house. If you do this then you will get a better response rate.

Definitely working on this, using your info as a jumping-off point. But I want to supplement with a bit of old school direct mail, too.

Post: Direct mail -- how can I narrow this list?

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Jean Bolger:

Is this in Houston or a similar big city? It might make a lot of sense to sort by area. For one thing, some areas may have plenty of house that people want to sell-  but no one wants to buy them! So that's no good to you. Think about what your end goal is- if you are wholesaling to rehabbers, look for an area that has strong sales and rising popularity. If you are doing buy/hold or selling to landlords, look for a strong rental area (these probably won't be the same areas, right?) Also, if it's a really big town then getting around to look at places and talk to people can be very cumbersome. I know in my city it can take you an hour or more to get across town at the wrong time of day, so it makes sense to focus on and learn one part of it well rather than be all spread out

 Yep it's HTX. Everything is a long drive away, I'm used to it :\

Post: Direct mail -- how can I narrow this list?

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41

I'm trying to put mailers together using a list from Listsource, and I settled on these criteria based on what @Michael Quarles has posted:

  • Entire city
  • Absentee owners
  • At least 30% equity
  • Minimum 4 years of ownership
  • SFR
  • 3 bedrooms
  • Total assessed value $0 to $current median price

These criteria give me a list of 24,000 names on Listsource. With my budget, I need to be more in the range of 1,000 names. Any ideas for this?

Narrowing to certain zip codes come to mind, any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Post: I think I have a deal here. What do I offer?

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41
Originally posted by @Jeff V.:

If I were approaching this deal I would take note of what the seller is telling you that is your gold.  

She wants to get rid of the expenses of maintaining the property, taxes and providing a roof over her sons head.  She is on a fixed income so that is her WHY.  She does not have spare income and will need to return to the workforce to get it.  Those are some pretty powerful motivators. 

I'd say your strongest offer is one that will both pay off the existing $18k in debt or get rid of her obligation to pay it by doing a "subject to" or Lease Option.  The other factor is she is really motivated by "INCOME".  So if you offered to pay her a note with interest for the remainder of your purchase price that would really motivate her to accept your offer.

So the offer would depend on your ability to pay the 18k in my opinion. 

Option 1:

Lets say you do have the ability to pay the 18k and run with that scenario based on the above mentioned assumptions.  

Value = 135k

Lets say you negotiate a 40% discount for a quick sale.

Purchase price = $81,000

Down Payment = $18,000

Seller Financing = $63,000

Term - 30 yr

Rate = 4% (Negotiable)

Payments to Seller = $300.77 / Month or $3609.24 / Yr

That would be a decent increase to a fixed income.  She would collect $108,277.20 over the life of the note.

Option 2:

Lets say you do not have the 18k on hand to do the deal.  

Value = 135k

Negotiate 40% discount. Purchase with a "subject to" strategy.

Purchase price $81,000

Down Payment = $0

Seller Financing $81,000

Term - 30 yr

Rate - 4%

Payments to seller = $386.70 / Month or $4640.40 / Yr

You pay the note on the 18k Mortgage out of your cashflow.  Seller would be in a second position with her note.  You will also run the risk of the "due on sale" clause being triggered.

She would collect $139,212 over the life of the note. NOTE this is more than the $135k the property is worth but she would be collecting every penny and more over the term of the note.

With that being said those are 2 valid options and they can be played with or tweaked to provide the perfect deal.

For Example:

If she comes back and says the 18k has to be paid off and is not willing to risk her credit being damaged and trust you to pay the mortgage on time go with Option 1.

If she says she wants to increase her income by $500 per month and that $300 and change will not cut it.  Adjust your financing a bit like so.  We'll use Option 2 math its a big easier to explain.

Use a financial calculator to solve for the missing variable.  Adjust either Term or Interest.  We know:

Value - $81k

Term - ??

PMT - $500

Rate - 4%

Calculated Term now = 19.44 Years

We round this to 18 Years for good even time frame and recalculate for payment. 

PMT = $526.66 

More than what she is asking...  It's good to over deliver, it makes your offer that much stronger.

New Terms:

Sales Price $81,000

Term 18 years

PMT  $526.66 / Month or $6319.92 / Yr.

She would collect $113,758.56 over the life of the loan.

There are all sorts of ways you can cut this deal.  You have to keep in mind that if your going to be holding the property then obviously whatever you can rent it for will dictate how much you can afford to pay her monthly out of that rent just as if it was a traditional mortgage.

Cheers,

Hopefully this will give you some creative ideas to try.  I really thing the main motivating factor that will get you the deal is how much "INCOME" you can provide for her.

Another option may be Interest only payments.

Another option may be straight principal no interest.

Endless options.

 Great post Jeff!

Post: Houston REIA/Wholesaler Suggestions

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41

There are several groups and each has a different personality. I would visit RICH, Houston REIA, Wealth Club, and Lifestyles, and see which one appeals to you most. They all have free meetings for first-timers.

Of course, some people like to go to all of them. You'll start seeing familiar faces if you make the rounds.

Post: Houston Real Estate Market will have more inventory in 2015.

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41

Isn't the general guideline that 6 mos of inventory = a balanced market?

You need more than 6 months for it to be a buyers market. If we get closer to 6 months, then we're back to "normal".

Post: Quick look at a potential deal

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41

Not overly thrilled with the numbers, either. Your mortgage payment is $845/mo out of a gross revenue of $1200/mo.

Put differently, your mortgage eats up 70% of your revenue right off the bat. That doesn't leave much for all the other expenses. Too tight for my tastes.

I recommend reading up on the  as a guideline for something like this.

Post: Real estate investing website

Will PorterPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 116
  • Votes 41

First thing I noticed was the logo in the top-right doesn't fit. I assume your company name is "First Choice Homes, LLC" but I can't be sure because the logo is cropped! And it also isn't transparent to see the background underneath. The white box surrounding the logo isn't an ideal situation