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All Forum Posts by: Waylon Smith

Waylon Smith has started 5 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Self Storage- Will they come? Market size?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16

I know this is likely an ignorant question. What constitutes a "C" Market? I am familiar with class A, B, or C properties but not markets. @Henry Clark

Post: Self Storage- Will they come? Market size?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16

What a great thread. @Henry Clark you and I chatted 2 years ago. I was not ready due to limited capital. I have now saved $200k (liquid) that is ready to be deployed. I am reading everything I can get my hands on that you have posted. Started working on the exercise above as well this morning. I just did my first town and the units available per headcount seems really low. Like too good to be true low. I live approx 60 miles north of Atlanta. When getting a total population count for a town, how big of an area do you limit your headcount to? For instance, my first town I researched was 30107. 30107 has 18k population. However there are a few other zip codes that are within 10-15 miles. When I add all of them together the total population is approximately 22k. Is 10-15 miles too big of an area when determining the unit count per person? Hope that makes sense. 

Post: New to STR- How is the market in 2024

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16

We purchased in Gulf Shores, Alabama last year. It’s been doing excellent and we are very happy with the investment. 

Post: STR Cash Flow Analysis First Time - What do you think?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16

Lived in North Georgia my whole life and didn't think of leaves! Good catch. Yes I didn't know what to plug in for the exterior log treatment and cleaning after each stay. I will work on that. For Capex values.... I factored in roof replacement (once), painting (few times), HVAC (once), flooring (once), etc. then divided that total ($35K) across a 20 year time period. May be way off on this calculation?

@Brian Wilson

Post: Deal 2 - What?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16

Here is a link to the property. 

https://www.realtor.com/reales...

PS - I am working on a spread sheet with the 1a / 1b tab, every day, etc like you recommended but not finished. Just wanted you to see what I have been working on. 

Post: Deal 2 - What?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16

Post: STR Cash Flow Analysis First Time - What do you think?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16

Hey everyone. My wife and I are ready to invest in our first STR. I know BP has rental calculators and I will likely use them in the future. However I wanted to do this manually so I can learn it myself first. I would love your feedback on these financials and to let me know my blindspots! I am sure I have plenty!

PS - I used a current listing in the area we want to invest but this is just for an example. I am running the numbers on as many properties as I can. Thank you for your help!

Link to the cabin I used in this exercise - https://www.realtor.com/reales...

Post: Deal 2 - What?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16

@Henry Clark awesome!

Post: Deal 2 - What?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Henry Clark:

Thanks Waylon.  Your story, resources, goals and timelines are different from other people, yet the same.  All of you still have to follow a Path, just different timing and results needed for your goal.

Action:

1.  On a new Excel spreadsheet make up 10 tabs and name them based on the above 5 items.  1A- Cost template; 1B- Profit template; 2A, 2B, so forth.  Now there already exists templates in BP.  I don't know where they are and haven't used them.  Why not go directly to them.  Because I want you to build the templates and understand the logic.  Learn the hard way.  

2.  Just on the first two tabs, build the following template below. 

Take the prior checklist template and drop it in 1A and we will build a cost model from it.

Go out on the web and find a STR property for sale similar to what you are thinking. Don't worry about is it a good price or not. Capture the detail and post here. Let's see the Cost and if they show rental rates and occupancy. If not, you look up and establish a Rental rate. Then we will address occupancy %.

Template 1B use the following:

Annual Revenue:  Approx $52k at 100% occupancy / $36k at 70% occupancy 

Occupancy %: 70% annually (my close friend owns cabin in Blue Ridge, he averages 70 - 75% occupancy rate

Addl revenue items

   Net Revenue:

Expenses:

   Property taxes- $1200.00 - 2021

   Insurance- $1465 annually 

   Utilities

    -  Water- $25 / $300 annually 

    - Sewer- Septic no county or city sewage

    - Electricity - $200 / $2400 annually 

    - Natural gas - $75?? / $900 annually - I don't have natural gas at my primary home. I am all electric so not familiar with this cost. 

   Repairs and Maintenance - ?? 12-15 years $5k - 6K for HVAC / 25 -30 years $15k for roof replacement / 5 years refinish flooring $5k / New paint 5 years - $5k / Log cabin exterior insect treatment - Approx. $4K? 

Repairs and maintenance - $35k total over 20 years.... Estimate $1750 per year for maintenance and repair? $35,0000 / 20 = $1750 annually. 

Capex funding ??

   Landscaping - Little to no landscaping cost. Wooded lot with gravel drive. No grass

   Management fee - Wife is stay at home mom. She will manage. Cost will be her time but we do not plan to hire a management team at this time. We also handle advertising  marketing. May change in the future. 

   Advertising - Same as above. 

   Payroll - N/A

   Sales Tax? 4% from what I can find in Georgia. Not sure how this is calculated? Is it charged on a per stay basis? Does websites such as air bnb and vrbo calculate sales tax and deduct that from your rental? 

   Other fees 

HOA fee - $900 annually 

Total Operating Expenses - $8915 annually approx

Net Operating Income - If I maintain a 70% occupancy rate that would generate $36k in gross revenue. $36k - $8951 = $27,049 net operating income.

Depreciation??

Interest expense??

  Pretax income??

Income Taxes??

   Net income

Principal Payments Principal and interest would be around $1650 per month. (20% down, 30 yr fixed and 5.79% interest rate)

Cash Flow= Net income plus Depreciation expense less principal payments.

Based on the information I have (not sure about depreciation, interest expense, pretax income, etc) 

$36k gross revenue - $8951 annual expenses - $19,800 (principal and interest) = $7249.00 annual cash flow. One thing I did not include is how much AirBnb and VRBO charges. I need to add that. 

Here is a link to the property I used for this exercise. 

https://www.zillow.com/homedet...

We will do a separate Loan payment schedule.

Improve on the above.  Make a separate post.  Ask for people to analyze your Cost worksheet and Your Income statement and cash flow work sheet.   Tell them you are intentionally building from scratch versus using the BP calculators; to understand the logic better.  Once you have done the above 5 examples then re do them using the BP calculator.

Please do 1A and 1B.  Do not get perfect.  You want to blast through both of them together in about 2 hours.  We will perfect later.  Want to get through the process first.  If you get stuck on anything, just place ?????? marks and keep moving.  Again, it's about getting through the process versus getting it right for now.


Post: How accurate is the 2% Rule?

Waylon SmithPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Canton, GA
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 16
Quote from @James Hamling:

Maybe this should be my 1st book in the "R.E. Reality Check" Series; 

"The "Ultimate Guide" to reading "Ultimate Guide's"

Chapter 1: Did you check the publishing date? 

Chapter 2: DUH! Using your head for more than a neck weight.

Chapter 3: Are you paying attention to Chapter 1?

lol


HA! Someone recommended this book in a different thread a few days ago so I just read it really quick and assumed it was up to date. I should have checked the publish date for sure!