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All Forum Posts by: Walter Holmes

Walter Holmes has started 8 posts and replied 64 times.

Post: Have to reschedule auction for the 6th time

Walter HolmesPosted
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Originally posted by @Patrick Desjardins:
Originally posted by @Dan Deppen:

What are some of the reasons for rescheduling?

Winning bidders didn't perform, attorney didn't publish in the newspaper, bankruptcy, another bidder not perform. Pretty absurd.

 Winning bidder not performing and BK comes with the territory  but missing to publish? 

not sure what the backstory for failing to publish is but unless the excuse is out of this world I can almost assure you there more to the long delay...

I've managed thousands of thousands of notes on a micro level, I mean due diligence of acquisitions to foreclosure, loss mitigation , auction sales and everything in between. 

I have not made millions as an investor, I just spent more time that I like to admit in "the trenches" (10+ years).
First of all the initial due diligence is extremely important needless to say to confirm the collateral is foreclosable but to identify the potential exit strategies for that loan and have a plan in place. Some notes are better suited to pursue a short sale or deed in lieu, some are destined to be sold at auction some are more profitable as a performing note but an exit strategy should be put in place from the beginning.

Unfortunately a good due diligence and strategy means nothing if you don't hire the right firm to handle your cases. 

Most avoidable delays in a foreclosure case come from the attorneys and/or the servicing company not doing what they are supposed to do or taking an unbelievable amount of time on simple processes time and time again.

Post: Miami Foreclosure Auction

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Hi Jeremy, Florida county auctions  are all held online.

Here's a good post I started on how to do the due diligence with great additional tips from other posters.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

Post: PropTech Ecosystem - Tech moves slower in RE?

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I thing intelligent automation is the most promising. I've been working/consulting on automating the due diligence process for sometime, its tricky because data integrity is everything and some counties are better than others handling and storing their data so we had to adjust and keep adjusting to ALL THE MANY different variables but i believe we were able to build a "foundation" to where at least the platform cuts the time it takes to do due diligence to about 30 min, some I was able to discard in under 5 min (Hoa foreclosure) .

I like the idea of starting with "small" processes, fully automating them (or making them as efficient as possible) then putting them together to address a niche market need i.e due diligence for properties sold at auction, prospecting short sales, lien search workflows,  etc. 

Post: Some Tips on How to do Auction Due Diligence In Florida

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Originally posted by @Jonathan Vasquez:

This is great. Thank you.

Follow up question: if a property in Broward County (FL) is foreclosed on by the HOA for say $10,000 and I purchase the property at auction for $15,000. Then I find out there's a mortgage for $100,000 on the property (assuming that I didn't do proper due diligence); who is liable for the mortgage after the sale ends?

This HOA scenario is one of the most common mistakes I see people do every week.

There is a market and scenarios where buying an HOA lien is profitable but let me answer your question first.

"Liable" is not the correct term I would use since you did not sign the mortgage but you will not be able to sell the property until you have a clean title.

If anyone makes this horrible mistake, I recommend you MOVE FAST; with luck, not all is lost.

First, you need to know the following:

  • Property value.
  • · Debt on the property = All mortgages, other liens, violations, etc attached to the property.
  • Is there any other open foreclosure case attached to the property?

Second, use the above to plan your exit strategy:

Sell the property: If the property Value is > debt on the property (enough to cover your investment and hopefully some ROI)

Rent the property: Debt is > property value (fight the foreclosure and Airbnb it to savage your investment)

Of course, there are more factors to take in consideration as each case has its own nuances this is just representative, I do not by any means promote the rental of properties under foreclosure and you would have to check with the HOA if it is even allowed.

Short answer: If you buy an HOA lien most likely the outstanding mortgage will foreclose on the property and you will lose title once the foreclosure process is complete.

Post: Florida Due diligence work workshop Q&A exchange of ideas.

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I'm interested in getting an idea of how many people would be interested in a due diligence "how-to" workshop, q&A, exchange of ideas, etc. 

investors or anyone who just wants to get their feet wet.
Would this be something anyone would be interested in attending?

Post: HELP!! Bought 2nd mortgage on Judicial sale in Illinois, Cook ct

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Originally posted by @Pete Sloa:
Originally posted by @Bob Floss II:

@Andy Mirza This post is creeping me out because I'm dealing with a very similar situation on a property and I'm concerned this is going to become a trend. The short answer as I understand it is, the surplus from the foreclosure sale by default goes back to the homeowner. A creditor can petition the court to capture the surplus, but Illinois requires the creditor have been an active participant in the foreclosure proceedings. You cannot jump in and file petition after you discover there are surplus funds. If one mortgage foreclosed, and the other mortgage was not involved in the proceedings, the surplus goes back to the homeowner.

I got in a heated discussion last week with the paralegal of a large law firm that handles a lot of foreclosures in my area and I was not happy with what she described as "normal" procedures for her office. My file involves a third party that purchased at sheriff sale but accidentally only bought the second mortgage. He came to me after he bought the property and realized there was an issue. There are two mortgages on the property and two foreclosure cases, and he assumed the cases were merged. As you can imagine, they were not. The second mortgage filed foreclosure and the first mortgage filed their own foreclosure. The first allowed the second to complete the entire foreclosure process and send the property to sheriff sale, at which point the first mortgage is proceeding with completing their foreclosure and will send the property to sale a second time. When I spoke to the paralegal for the first mortgage lender attorney, I told her this seemed like a waste of time and creates confusion when they could simply merge the cases and take first position in the already filed foreclosure.

Her response was they are not obligated to merge the cases, they typically don't merge the cases (which I still contend was a lie because I see cases merged all the time), and it's not their responsibility to worry about surplus because the third party purchaser wasn't smart enough to look at the property history. Since they never filed an appearance on the second mortgage foreclosure, they cannot capture the surplus and that money has already been sent to the homeowner. The party I'm representing now has to pay off the first mortgage and the foreclosed homeowner gets to walk away with a nice large check. All of this could have been avoided if the attorney for the first mortgage company had just merged their foreclosure case with the already open foreclosure. I have a strange feeling opening their own case has more to do with generating attorneys fees than any operation of law.

So....if you are buying at sheriff sale, please pay close attention to liens and foreclosure cases on file. Having two instances pop up within a week of each other seems like a red flag. Don't assume the first and second mortgages (aka their attorneys) are cooperating or working together. If you believe the paralegal, it's now normal for them to allow the second mortgage to complete the entire foreclosure process, send it to sheriff sale, and then complete a second foreclosure process, and send the property to sheriff sale a second time. **Cue the clowns and the man on the flying trapeze**

Hey Bob, thanks for jumping in! You are the 3rd person that I know this happened to. Yah and the way I found out that I bought 2nd mrg is because I saw one property that was sold in april 2019 and last week it was sold again. It was a huge red flag to me since I saw the property was already fully remodeled. I found out who first bought the property and gave the guy a call. Turns out he bought 2nd mrg, and thought it was the first. He lost 180K on this.

In my case, since both of the mrgs are from Harris bank, so it is named in the Foreclosure sale, do you think that 30K could apply to the 1st?

 Hi Bob, 

Regarding this particular case from Harris Bank if I'm not mistaken I read that the 1st position was current, wouldn't this affect the ability for the 1st position to claim surplus even if they are part of the foreclosure proceedings? Also, in the worse  case scenario for Pete where NOBODY in the atty's firm or Harris bank Noticed they were foreclosing on their selves and failed to file the appearance,  I'm I wrong or Pete (3rd party buyer) can file a claim of surplus to be paid to the first position (ofcourse before the deadline)

Now another question/guess regarding this trend and files not being merged, the 1 file i saw and the file on this post both involved properties where the equity is enough to cover both mortgages ....are you seen the same on your end?

Because, if that's the case and there's enough equity to cover liens and some left for the borrower, wouldn't it be illegal or at least questionable for a 3rd party buyer to be able to just payoff the 1st and walk away with the equity that truly belonged to the borrower? 

I'm glad Bob is here because my ADHD  kicked in high gear thinking about ALL the potential new case law this will create. 

I'm a "Florida guy" and I'm very rusty on Illinois maybe its just that!

Thank In advance.

Post: HELP!! Bought 2nd mortgage on Judicial sale in Illinois, Cook ct

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Give me a sec, to go through the docket.

Post: HELP!! Bought 2nd mortgage on Judicial sale in Illinois, Cook ct

Walter HolmesPosted
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To add....a second position will only foreclose when the property has enough equity to cover both mortgages such as in this case, and again...SAME LENDER! 

Check the court docket, usually a first position can stop a junior lien (or just paying it off) in this case having equity and being the same lender they will allow it to proceed but by not contesting the case but requesting the consideration for surplus.

Most likely Surplus will go to the 1st position.

Post: HELP!! Bought 2nd mortgage on Judicial sale in Illinois, Cook ct

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Ok, so there are some things everyone might be overlooking (or i might be missing something here)

Notice how the the lender is the same Harris Bank....I would bet $1 that the reason for the subordination is because the 200k loan recorded in 2009 is either a refinance or some type of heloc. 

Banks do this so the mortgage with the highest amount not only gets priority butt conserve "value" in case the loan is sold. Now, i will bet $2 more dollars that Harris bank covered their but with the surplus by filing a special consideration in receiving a portion of any proceedings from a foreclosure auction by the second.

Now, there are some states where if the second mortgage forecloses the first will still be able to collect surplus depending on the time the lis pend was filed 

Funny gray area i my self have used to claim surplus (and got it) , the second foreclosed, before my first , which put my mortgage in a bad position BUT I COLLECTED THROUGH THE JUDGMENT which came next in line!

in this case FOR SURE do not let the first foreclose. I would get in contact with the first make sure you find the special consideration ( i can almost assure you they filed) and get a payoff. 

Hope I'm not misunderstanding what i read and are not being a contrarian to what everyone's thoughts for this case are.

Best of luck!

Post: What is the biggest difficulty in finding deals Florida auctions

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So, lets use miami dade auctions happen Mon, Tuesday and Wednesdays. Must or "a lot" of investors begin their research on Thrusday for the upcoming week (this to minimize the risk of doing Due diligence on a sale that will cancel). 

The above makes sense but 4 days its just NOT enough time to analyze all possible deals (big net i spike about) This is why you see over and over the same investors attempting to buy on just a couple of zip codes or area (usually the markets they know the best)

I'm POSITIVE that a "big net" is one of the "must haves" to win bids a constant base. 

Just off the top of my head i say you should have A MINIMUM OF 10 potential investments a week to win 1-2 a month.

I say start a month out at least, How do you do this without spending endless hours or money prospecting? 

Learn to recognize obvious cancellations, a create a good due diligence plan (i made a post with how i prospect and the order i do my due diligence, let me know if you need a link)

Hope this helps!