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All Forum Posts by: Filipe Matos

Filipe Matos has started 9 posts and replied 113 times.

Post: Marc Mousseau

Filipe MatosPosted
  • Investor
  • toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Hi @Dominika M

The trainer gave lots of ways to analyse a property, and you can use them all together to get a good picture of if the property will cash flow.

For example, GRM (gross rent multiplier) = purchase price / yearly gross rent. If the grm is 7 or lower, it will probably cash flow. If it's higher, you shouldn't give it a second look. Profit per unit per month should be $75 or more. Cash on cash return (annual income / money down) should be 35% or more and cost per unit (for 1-2 bed units) should be $50,000 or lower.

He doesn't recommend using the 1% rule because you'll need a higher down payment to make it cash flow.

Hope that helps.

35% cash on cash is almost impossible to achieve, you would need to get 1,400 in net monthly rent on a 250k property. Maybe possible without property management.

50k per unit? Only in Windsor, Hamilton downtown close to the factories, and small towns. You are risking here to have great cash flow but no much appreciation.

I have heard of investors selling everything because they had too much trouble with trouble tenants eating their cash flow and almost losing money because of lack of appreciation. 

I have heard Marc once, I kinda liked it, so I find strange he would preach such numbers in Canada in today's days.... 

Numbers are changing year by year... Maybe he didn't update his numbers in the last 3 years?

Teacher out of touch with the market? Or maybe I am missing something.

I hope I am wrong.

I cringe when I hear Canadian investors paying US based gurus to guide them in Canada , same when I see nowadays lots of us listening people that have no properties, or only a couple properties that barely cash flow.

Filipe

Post: Newbie Canadian (hamilton) investor

Filipe MatosPosted
  • Investor
  • toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Joel Moore:

Thanks Paul, I have been looking at student rentals here locally. That said the numbers are not very good, this has been part of delay in acquiring properties.  Some great information you have provided for getting started, I've already read and listened to much of it. I'm really enjoying going through the podcasts, tons of great information. 

 Shaun it really is a small world. Shoot me a pm if you ever back this way, i'd love to have a coffee and chat.

Regards, Joel

 Hi Joel, I am very active in Hamilton, just bought one property there and almost closed on a second one.

If you don't like the numbers for student rentals in Hamilton, then you will not like it almost anywhere else in the whole Canada, same for any other kind of real estate in Canada except some apartment buildings. Things are not as easy as 2 years ago.

I was getting good cash flow in Toronto until a year ago, but now, forget it. Close to Toronto,  I can only get good cash flow in Hamilton.

Maybe you are looking at small and overpriced  properties, there is tons of them now, you have to be patient and look for the needle in the hay stack.

If you don't have patience, maybe you should look at student rentals in st Catherine's

Also, If you are interested in providing financing, let me know, I may need it in a few months.

Good luck

Originally posted by @Roy N.:

The two commercials (3.0 / 2.6) I referenced above are 1.5+-million each ... but that's commercial.

The renew/refinance we are doing is on a residential MFH - we are pulling out some capital, so the final number will be 240 - 250K.

Your relationship with the lendor, track record and debt ratios will play a factor into the amounts and rates you can secure.

Yeah, I think commercial mortgages are not included on the approval of residential properties. 

I have had a good track record with banks, but it seems that does not matter to them anymore.

tks

Originally posted by @Roy N.:

@Filipe Matos 

We have not found anything worth buying recently, but are actively looking.   We are also renewing/refinancing a mortgage at the moment and secured a rate of 2.45%.

We have also pre-arranged financing for a couple of LOIs on mid-sized buildings and obtained 3.00 (uninsured) and 2.6 (insured).

@Elliott Davis 

I do a bit of lending - small amounts - out of my SDRSP.  I have no 1st mortgages at the moment (the last one was at 6%), but have a couple of seconds at 10% (which is pretty low as I know the borrower quite well).

Hi Roy, I wonder if my situation is a bit different since my total mortgage amount is higher than 1.5million and the mortgages I require are higher than 400K?

I got approved months ago for 3% on a 200K mortgage, but maybe they make it difficult for higher amounts?

Originally posted by @Elliott Davis:

Hi Filipe, I just recently butted up against this as well. I took my mortgage broker out for a coffee to discuss a strategy to get to 10 rental properties. My wife and I currently have 4 plus our primary place of residency and it was explained to me that a lot of lenders are not extending mortgages to those with with a certain number of mortgages or above a certain dollar amount. The specific number of properties and dollar amount varied slightly by lender. 

His suggestion for us, to get to our goal of 10 buy-and-hold rental properties was to use portfolio lending. He had worked with 3 different lenders who would lend in this way. They still required 20% down but I don't recall him saying that their rates/terms where any different then a conventional financing structure. 

Another thing that I am researching is private money but the rates will likely be higher than 4% so may not be the solution you where looking for. 

I am in Edmonton so I'm not sure what differences will exist for you in the GTA but good luck and I hope this was helpful. 


Elliott.

I am fine with 20% down, what I am not fine with is rates above 3%

Which lenders do portfolio lendig? 

Hi all, I am finding very hard to get proper financing for residential deals with A lenders, 20% down and rates lower than 4%.

it seems that since mid 2014 it is impossible to get lending from A lenders (big 5 banks) at preferred rates (+-3%) for investors that have more than 1.5 million in mortgages, even if the number of mortgages is only 2.

This is what I found:

RBC: they have a limit of 1.2 million for residential mortgages and low rates (<3%)

BMO: they require 30% down instead of 20% for non owner occupied properties

CIBC: unlimited mortgages with 20% down, but properties need to cash flow, which in Toronto is impossible upon purchase.

Other banks don't even respond since I have I high dollar amount in mortgages  

 The Best solution I found until now was going with a B lender that will charge 4% to 5% in interest with 20% down. This becomes quite costly, making commercial lending almost more viable at 3.5% rates with 30 to 35% down, meaning, moving from residential purchases to building purchases.

Anyone with the same issue?

Post: How to flip a Building in Ontario, Canada

Filipe MatosPosted
  • Investor
  • toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 8

Another point I would like to touch: 

What size of buildings do you guys purchase and how was the experience?

Buildings greater than 15 units might be too much for me since my approach is go in , renovate the whole thing and rent asap. Doing a 20 unit building may take too long, annoy tenants too much unless I hire 3/4 teams of contractors.

I am feeling my sweet spot might be 10 to 15 units max.

This might be my first experience with buildings and I am finding that it might not be such a great business approach as I was expecting.  

I found a few issues with buildings: 

- cap rates are decreasing fast around here

- property taxes seem to be absurd in some cases compared with 5/6 plexes 

- expenses can be actually higher per unit compared with 3/5 plexes

- tenant profile is probably worse

- Rents not be higher compared with 5/6 plexes 

- cash flow might not be greater  compared with some 5/6 plexes

- bed bugs seem to be a serious issue in buildings

Post: How to flip a Building in Ontario, Canada

Filipe MatosPosted
  • Investor
  • toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Simon Lloyd:

That's very exciting @Filipe Matos !  I wish you the best of luck on this deal. 

I'm not a Tenancy Act expert by any means but I did have to evict tenants from all three units of a triplex I owned when it was purchased by the local regional government.  I gave 90 days notice and didn't find out until too late that 120 days is actually required (as @Roy N. states--of course!--correctly).  But it really wasn't an issue.  Luckily if it HAD been an issue, any legal fees would have been paid by the municipality in this case so I wasn't on the hook, but my point is that if you treat tenants with respect and dignity and give them as much notice / information / explanation as you are able, they will be more likely to reciprocate and you won't need worry about the intricacies of the Landlord Tenant Act.  Tenants generally aren't legal experts nor do they want to waste their own time at a LTB tribunal (of course there are exceptions to this) so if you can offer some type of compensation or assistance in finding new placements, and treat them with respect throughout the process you may find it easier than using a more combative strictly legal approach.

Good luck! 

 That's right Simon, that is the feedback I get around here from fellow investors. Hopefully we all will do things respectfully and all will be fine and in good terms in the end.

cheers

Post: How to flip a Building in Ontario, Canada

Filipe MatosPosted
  • Investor
  • toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 8

ok, yes , it can be complicated , it all depends on the tenants.

I prefer to vacate the whole building at once so it's clear I am going to make it a major construction site and save the tenants from living in the middle of dust for 6 months.

It's clear for everyone it's best to clear the whole building, and giving 4 months is a pretty good time to look for another place to stay. Where I am planning to buy, rents are affordable, so they should not have to spend too much on moving to a new place.

We shall see.

Sending an offer now, asking price is a bit high, lets see how it goes.

thanks everyone.

Post: How to flip a Building in Ontario, Canada

Filipe MatosPosted
  • Investor
  • toronto, Ontario
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 8

Thanks Roy, what about offer one month rent to the tenant to leave on his own by serving an N9, notice from the tenant to leave, the Tenant agreeing to receive one month rent as compensation?

thank you