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All Forum Posts by: Veronica Giggers

Veronica Giggers has started 20 posts and replied 72 times.

Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

Veronica Giggers
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Quote from @Jeff Copeland:

As an experienced property manager, I have no qualms about one-bedroom units. Steering clear of them is outdated advice in my opinion. 

One bedroom units are very popular and easy to keep rented to single people and/or couples, because they are usually a relatively low cost housing option. They experience much less vacancy that a 3/2 home, for example. 

I do, however, have qualms about leasing to homeless or near homeless individuals (veterans or otherwise). Let me be clear: I am a retired military veteran myself with 22 years of service, and I do think it's a noble and honorable idea for you to want to help homeless veterans with housing. 

But I am also an experienced property manager with experience with the VA's VASH program, as well as similar programs for non-veterans. As such, I have grown jaded over the years and can tell you that in my personal experience 90% of these tenants don't work out. Often due to non-payment as soon as their benefits run out, and other times due to drug and alcohol abuse or mental health issues.

Just make sure you aren't looking at it through rose colored glasses, and understand what you are getting into. Managing tenants on these programs requires 2-3 times as much staff time and energy as managing a normal class B to C rental, and these units will very often experience much higher vacancy, collection, and eviction-related losses. 

That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. These are just the cold hard facts. 


Good morning, Jeff. It is the VA/HUD Vash program that I have been considering. Based on my experience as a Registered Nurse, I know there are issues with mental health and substance abuse, but I have not had experience from a landlord perspective. I considered purchasing the property and using it solely for VA veterans, but like you pointed out that may not be the best idea. I wonder if it would make more sense to purchase a smaller multifamily to use for this purpose or would the property management part eat up any profit. Thank you.

Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

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Quote from @Nathan Harden:

This is a question that a lot of investors ask themselves. My first questions would be, how much is the purchase price and what do the units rent for? Turnover is going to be more on a 1 bedroom, no doubt so take that vacancy into consideration when running your numbers. 

Also, while it is nice to help out the homeless (I love the fact you want to help vets), your units could take a beating and require serious rehab after. Not all homeless will trash your place, just like not all section 8 tenants will but there is a higher possibility then if you were renting to A-B renters.


 Good morning, Nathan. Currently the purchase price is more that I would offer. I am working the numbers to see what makes sense for us. Typically, we use the 5% vacancy rate on our calculations but I'm sure we need to increase that %. what would you recommend on calculating vacancy, cap ex, property management etc.?

Thank you.

Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

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Thank you, Charles.  I spoke with one of the social workers who work with the homeless veterans, there is a big demand for housing.  I am aware of two other investors who own property, and they lease some of their units to veterans. I plan to contact them to see what is working. Of course, I would want to have a good property manager who understands the how to work with the tenants.

Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

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Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Veronica Giggers

It all depends on the market. Small units thrive in some markets. Broadly speaking (as you mentioned), you have more turnover. Smaller units are much easier to rent though since there are fewer options. If you are in an expensive market, these will be in great demand.

I have found that the larger the units, the less turnover there is; which is really the goal of multifamily investing (tenants stay 24+ months). It seems, however, that you have a unique plan for this property. How are you planning on testing the tenant demand?


Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

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Good morning BP family. I hope everyone is realizing your RE investing goals.  We are considering purchasing a 9 unit multifamily. All of the units are 1 bedroom.  Historically we were discouraged from purchasing properties that contain one-bedroom units due to the tenant turnover. Has anyone had good experience with these type investments. We were thinking about using it to help homeless or near homeless Military Veterans. 

Post: Does having a property in an LLC make it hard to leverage equity?

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Hello. Thanks for the advice and input. We will consider whether we want to use the LLC and what properties we want to use it for.

Post: Does having a property in an LLC make it hard to leverage equity?

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Quote from @Kerry Baird:

@Christopher Oliva, insurance will cover the liability with the properties, and is sufficient for most investors. Financing for properties held by LLCs will hinder your growth for some time. For example, I need to submit my State STR license, my operating agreement, the articles of incorporation and show percentages of ownership for the entities. We use a S Corp for holding company, and it manages the LLCs. So I have to show that ownership. Rates on investment mortgages are in the 8% range right now, and often require 25% down, have a 5 year pre-payment penalty.

For mortgage sequencing, I recommend starting with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgages, conventional ones. Then non-QM or DSCR. I stopped using conventional mortgages when the amount of reserves became onerous. You could go to 10 mortgages with one spouse and 10 mortgages with the other spouse. And then...LLC and non-qm/DSCR.


Hello BP family. I learned something today reading these posts. We are looking into financing and didn't think about the "sequencing" of mortgages. We are staring out with a HELOC on an investment property. Reading this information, we may need to seek Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgages as soon as possible. Are the 10 mortgages per spouse conventional mortgages?

Thank you 

Post: Buying SFH through online or in person Foreclosure auctions

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Thanks all, I figured there is unknowns in purchasing properties via auctions. Some of them do look pretty good though. I'll let you know if we do decide to try out the online auction gig and how things turn out. Happy Investing.

Post: Buying SFH through online or in person Foreclosure auctions

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Hello BP family. I am thinking about purchasing a SFH that is a foreclosure and listed on an online auction site. Does anyone have experience with this type of investing? Any suggestions on how to go about getting a good deal or if there are really good deals thru a foreclosure or bank owned property.

Thank you.

Post: Quarterly OKC Bigger Pockets Meet-Up - Thursday, Nov. 10 6p-8p

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