All Forum Posts by: Veronica Giggers
Veronica Giggers has started 23 posts and replied 80 times.
Post: Advice/Handyman for SFH

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Good morning BP family. Happy Monday. Is anyone familiar with the Chickasha area in Oklahoma. We are considering purchasing a house in that area. We live in the OKC area. We do not want to self-manage the property but don't want to hire a property manager if we can avoid it. Does anyone have advice on what we need to pay particular attention to when purchasing property in that area, and any recommendations on a "handyman" or someone who could be that middleman for the tenants to call? Thank you.
Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Quote from @Rhett Tullis:
The expected rents in that area fluctuate a lot depending on which part of NE 18th you are on.
Rhett. The property is east of Lincoln Blvd.
Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Quote from @Tim Herman:
@Veronica Giggers How long can you support negative cash flow. That extensive of a remodel will increase your property tax. Googled average tax and it is .085 of ARV. You tax will go up to around $225 per month. Your all in is 280k for $2100 of income. Unlikely you can find PM for 5%.
Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Hello everyone. I posted the report above but forgot to put information into the post. This property is located in OKC and is a duplex with 2 bed, 1 bath each unit and has been neglected for a number of years. It will need a lot of work. The location is good for renting, not oversaturated with rentals. There is really only one comp in the area, it is 1 bed, 1 bath each side was remodeled and sold for $245,000 close to asking price. I need to pull money back out of this deal, but based on my calculations that will be a few years bed=fore I can do that. Thoughts?
Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Post: Making a lowball offer on several properties

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Quote from @Steve Vaughan:
Quote from @Kenny N.:
I keep pushing my agent to write a low ball offer on several properties but all get rejected.
In respect to her time, I am a bit skeptical now and wonder on how to overcome this and not jeopardizing our relationship?
Submit a cookie cutter letter of intent you can personalize to each property vs a full 26 or whatever page offer.
Mine is friendly and outlines 3 scenarios I'd be happy with.
If the seller shows interest in a scenario, then do a formal offer.
Hello Steve. We have also been wondering how to keep writing offers, while at the same time not wasting our RE's time. I love your idea of submitting a cookie cutter letter of intent. How do you structure your letter, what property type are you using them for?
Thank you.
Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

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Quote from @Darlene Hinman:
SRO. single room occupancy. are in HIGH demand with populations who are getting served by DHS-dept of human services. think of domestic violence, homeless, exiting or enter jail, prison, rehabs -for physical or mental reasons -accidents, surgery, breakdowns etc.; divorced, teens exiting foster care (18-21 age). yes there is a need. you need to know where your clients will hail from. there you will find them at DHS/DSS/WIC/DV/ agencies. single rooms, shared kitchen, bath etc. all very commonly used for "temporary/shelter care" housing. for 30days to one year. pending --usual things like court hearings, sentencings, adjudications, or pending finding a larger unit to reunify with children taken by CPS. be ready for drama. but if you work it hard-the state/county/federal will pay. HUD pays. just expect to not be paid on time & deal with paperwork! it is my area of expertise--i suppose.
Great feedback and conversation flow on this subject. Thank you. I did not think about reaching out to the other at-risk groups you spoke about, but I can see there being a high need for housing. Whichever direction we choose, we will use a property manager, so I really have to consider the cost for that service.
Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

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Quote from @Matthew Kwan:
As it depends the location and demand of the area. As some places as higher demands for 1B1B due to the high stats of singles or a state that only attracts for job opportunities. However, at OK due to the land availability and population being 3.987 million...I personally would lean towards more bedrooms as it's being ranked 18th highest marriage rate in the country = more family members in the single household.
Thank you. where did you locate the information on marriage rates, etc?
Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

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Quote from @Jeff Copeland:
As an experienced property manager, I have no qualms about one-bedroom units. Steering clear of them is outdated advice in my opinion.
One bedroom units are very popular and easy to keep rented to single people and/or couples, because they are usually a relatively low cost housing option. They experience much less vacancy that a 3/2 home, for example.
I do, however, have qualms about leasing to homeless or near homeless individuals (veterans or otherwise). Let me be clear: I am a retired military veteran myself with 22 years of service, and I do think it's a noble and honorable idea for you to want to help homeless veterans with housing.
But I am also an experienced property manager with experience with the VA's VASH program, as well as similar programs for non-veterans. As such, I have grown jaded over the years and can tell you that in my personal experience 90% of these tenants don't work out. Often due to non-payment as soon as their benefits run out, and other times due to drug and alcohol abuse or mental health issues.
Just make sure you aren't looking at it through rose colored glasses, and understand what you are getting into. Managing tenants on these programs requires 2-3 times as much staff time and energy as managing a normal class B to C rental, and these units will very often experience much higher vacancy, collection, and eviction-related losses.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. These are just the cold hard facts.
Good morning, Jeff. It is the VA/HUD Vash program that I have been considering. Based on my experience as a Registered Nurse, I know there are issues with mental health and substance abuse, but I have not had experience from a landlord perspective. I considered purchasing the property and using it solely for VA veterans, but like you pointed out that may not be the best idea. I wonder if it would make more sense to purchase a smaller multifamily to use for this purpose or would the property management part eat up any profit. Thank you.
Post: Thoughts about purchasing multifamily with all 1 bedroom units

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Quote from @Nathan Harden:
This is a question that a lot of investors ask themselves. My first questions would be, how much is the purchase price and what do the units rent for? Turnover is going to be more on a 1 bedroom, no doubt so take that vacancy into consideration when running your numbers.
Also, while it is nice to help out the homeless (I love the fact you want to help vets), your units could take a beating and require serious rehab after. Not all homeless will trash your place, just like not all section 8 tenants will but there is a higher possibility then if you were renting to A-B renters.
Good morning, Nathan. Currently the purchase price is more that I would offer. I am working the numbers to see what makes sense for us. Typically, we use the 5% vacancy rate on our calculations but I'm sure we need to increase that %. what would you recommend on calculating vacancy, cap ex, property management etc.?
Thank you.