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All Forum Posts by: Trevor Ewen

Trevor Ewen has started 68 posts and replied 1236 times.

Post: How to shortlist cities for cash flow investing?

Trevor EwenPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Weehawken, NJ
  • Posts 1,270
  • Votes 704

@Shriraj Shah

I like to think of this in terms of first and second order regulatory concerns. The first order concerns are things that will affect your operation, directly. The second order concerns are things that tend to have an indirect effect, but are not as explanatory in a simple model. Second order concerns are usually things that will affect your tenants more than you.*

First Order Concerns
1) Ease of eviction: This can be somewhat subjective, but you can get a lot of information on lists like this. No matter what people tell you, you are going to evict someone, eventually. It can take 2 weeks or it can take 2 years. 
2) Permitting & environmental standards: Particularly relevant if you are running your own rehabs. Even if someone else does it, you'll still pay the cost downstream.
3) Property taxes: This is a serious concern that I see a shocking number of newer investors ignore. Granted, it can be a double-edged sword. For instance, you could pursue a strategy where you are targeting great school districts, and thus accept a higher burden. That said, the way different states and counties deal with this is incredibly variable. This is a key reason that many coastal markets are out of consideration from a cashflow perspective.

Second Order Concerns
1) Income taxes: Your tenants will be paying this, if it's high, it's an incentive to move. This is a particularly strong issue in border areas right near a state line. The NYC metro area has found a way around this, but you're much more likely to see this issue upstate near the Pennsylvania border, for instance.
2) Corporate taxes: In most strategies, you'll want tenants that have jobs. A tax code that is a disincentive for corporations to locate in the community will have a long-term effect. Here is a story on this problem in Kansas City, it's a humorous take on what can happen with companies and incentives. I would be cautious of communities that are on the high end of the corporate tax range. California definitely has this problem.
3) Growth / Business friendliness: This is a concept that is tossed around a lot, and often-abused by enterprising politicians. Generally speaking, you want to target communities that welcome growth of all sorts, and are willing to make the necessary tradeoffs to support it, occasionally at the expense of entrenched interests. The economics tend to be efficient enough to discourage investors from looking at these communities, but I would be careful about warning signs when it appears that politicians and local entrenched (often called NIMBY) interests are conspiring to 'keep things as they were'. This holds down inventory, but is not a good long-term trend for any economy in my humble opinion.

*This advice is for buy & hold rental units. Flips, new development, short-term rentals, and other verticals behave a little differently depending on the incentives provided by the regulations.

    Post: Best place to invest in a 50 mile radius around New York City

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Asim Sheikh

    Generally speaking, this region is very tough. Trenton is one place where you can find reasonable prices and cashflow. Good transportation options and lovely buildings in many parts of the city. Slow growth, but it would be the place I would recommend if you are insistent on being nearby.

    Post: How to shortlist cities for cash flow investing?

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Shriraj Shah

    Welcome. SF & NYC are similar, and I absolutely advocate on out-of-state approach.

    Some people will start with 'nearby' markets, many suggesting that a two-hour drive is the upper limit of what constitutes 'nearby'. Depending on how busy you are with work, life, etc. that can still be quite some distance. Also, these options near the Bay area are increasingly rare.

    Beyond that, I think you look at communities with the magic combination of decent prices, job & population growth, and a reasonable (and trending reasonable) regulatory environment. There are some favorites on the forums that have a lot of investor activity. There are others that are much sleepier or waiting to be discovered for what they truly are. The big decision-maker will be if you can find connections in the community to work with. I can assure you, I have had better luck making relationships first and the communities follow.

    If you want to marry the two approaches. I would try and quantify a list of 20 cities or so that meet your criteria. From there, I would build relationships and see where the greatest overlap is happening.

    Post: Newbie from New York City

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Wilson Auyeung

    Welcome and congratulations!

    There are many different approaches. Myself and many other NYC-based investors advocate an approach of investing, passively, out-of-state. Networks and resources in NYC make it a decent place to fundraise, and you'd be amazed how many people want exposure to cash-flowing real-estate in other parts of the country. Of course, it all depends on your goals, but I've found it to be rewarding.

    Post: Aspiring Passive Investor!

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Benny Morfas

    @Jack Martin and others already shared great info on the matter. As a passive investor myself, I can certainly tell you how I got started. 

    I contacted a few deal sponsors (from BP) directly, and got to know them and grabbed coffee / lunch. Keep your ears open for people who have a philosophy and market you like. If they are motivated, they are probably working on a deal, as we speak. Eventually, you meet people outside this universe with different deals. They will have heard of you, and be generally aware that you're serious, so there is a nice synergy that comes from it.

    Post: Newbie Investor Newark, North NJ, NYC metro

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Amir Jefferson

    As a fellow person in the tristate area, congrats, and it's definitely a tough slog around here.

    A lot of folks that work full-time and live in this area have decided to focus their efforts on passive investment, and typically outside the Northeast (if you want cashflow). That's been my focus, and I have been very happy with it. Feel free to reach out if you need anything and want to learn more about that. You can certainly get an idea for my philosophy by reading 1-3 of my posts on any thread.

    Post: Best Passive or Hands Off Real Estate Investments

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Kevin Powell

    Funds, syndications, private loans, and turnkey are your best options. There are different advantages to each class. Syndications are most common for what people think of as real estate investing (equity exposure, multi-family units, economies of scale). That said, when I get into this conversation with some people, I find out they are much more interested in beating the market (slightly) in a low-risk asset. For something like that, you'll find a lot of value in private-money lending.

    Whatever your rationale, I would do some personal interrogation as to what you want with it and your risk tolerance.

    Post: Passive Investing in Apartments

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Matthew Gagnon

    Agree with the legal concerns. Regardless of the type of deal, particularly if it's your first, the best bet will be with people who already know you, your credibility, and your work ethic. While figuring out the legal side, I would put together a list of people in your network that may be interested.

    Post: Commercial RE options for a beginner investor?

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Kiran Shilamkar

    I am a passive investor and I do a good deal of syndication investing. It's an approach I arrived at after trying single family homes, small multis, and private lending (which I still do). I think it's a good way to go. Best for passivity, and a great way to meet quality operators. Please reach out if you have any questions about my approach or path.

    Post: Any private money out there? Share your experience with me!

    Trevor EwenPosted
    • Rental Property Investor
    • Weehawken, NJ
    • Posts 1,270
    • Votes 704

    @Patrick Nickerson

    I am a private lender, and I can tell you a bit from my side of it. We are easier to find than you think, here are some recommendations:

    1) Go to people that know and trust you for other reasons, they'll be your best bet to get things started.
    2) Shorter turnaround and lower risk than equity often opens you up to a new batch of lenders, particularly more risk-averse types that live on a fixed income from investments. This is a very large group of people we don't hear about a lot on this forum.
    3) If you offer attractive rates, even by +.5% or so (compared to alternatives), you can really get people interested. It's very hard to find yield these days, so I think that's opened many people up to alternative streams.
    4) Buffer your estimates, pick clear milestones, always hit your targets and you will have the most loyal group of lenders imaginable.

    Thanks