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All Forum Posts by: Tom C.

Tom C. has started 10 posts and replied 89 times.

Post: Hello Houston

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20
Welcome to BP. I'm up in kingwood... There are lots of us Houston folks around the site.

Post: Newbie from Conroe/Houston area

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20
Welcome Rhonda, I am in a similar spot (full-time professional looking for my first deal). Best of luck in 2014.

Post: Obsessed w These New Duplexes - PLEASE, HELP ME ANALYZE!

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20

Mark, you have to realize that the deal you are highlighting is far from the holy grail of real estate investing that a lot of “buy and hold” investors are looking for... With cash in the bank, most of the guys on there would be looking for a total “crap house” they could buy for $80K, spend $20K in like-new repairs to then appraise the property for $125K.If you can swing this you can then do a cash-out refinance and pull out your entire $100K and have a 80% leveraged property that will cash flow in a lot of areas of the US (and you have your cash back).The goal is to put your money into a property and add sweat equity…Then take your money back OUT… then repeat. I am not saying that this always works, but none-the-less the less of your money you have tied up in a thirty-year endeavor the better off you will be.As such, we try (sometimes naively) to commit to a project in hopes that it plays out in the real word as it does so nicely on paper sometimes.

Post: BP PROs: How Can We Better Our PRO Accounts?

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20

So, a little of this begs the question as to whether you are adding soley function or making this a little more aspirational, but I will leave that to those with a marketing degrees. This idea is along the same line as my prior (I had two ideas today... nice) would be to adjust the presentation of the "thread listing", I would think you could list the #of Replies and the number of Pro replies. Maybe have the header be "Pros/Replies" and then show the ratio "3/22."

I also prefer searching by relevance/reliability (Google), although I understand the programing to be more difficult. A fun solution here may be that in the site's search results the highest search priority would be given to threads containing the highest # of pro conrtibutors (% of pros). Or that pros are able to "like" threads or flag them as "helpful" so that these threads are promoted within the sites search results as those first viewed in searches. Not only does that provide some control and influence to the pros as a group (big egos, right), but theoretically if done right it should allow a better total experience searching the forums (not to mention encourage better content-not that it isn't great!).

In addition to ranking content, I think it would be fun to allow the pros to rank contributors by the level by which they appear to be trusted (ranking other pros and others). I am not even sure if you want to publish these results, but allow a user to see their own and see how they are viewed and utilize this within the search tool of the site to list trusted sources prior to those who might just be... well, less trustworthy.

One final, unrelated comment is that I wouldn't mind a tool that I enter in my email user name and password and have the site log in and scan my email for BP users I may not know use the site (or who have only used it once or twice). I found a friend of mine the other day was always on here (never posting) and I had no clue... we now are much better friends and talk about real estate ALL the time.

(again, Josh said be nice)

Post: BP PROs: How Can We Better Our PRO Accounts?

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20

Paying some cash for a little icon is great, but puffing to puff the "pro" ego it may be cool to pump the "pros" as a group. For example: have an little note on the homepage that said how many pros are currently logged onto the site and how many posts were contributed to the site that day by pros. When the number of Pros connected you can see a list with picture and locations of those Pros, better yet have dots lit up across a map of the US... If you click on the posts made by pros number, it would merely take you to a table showing these posts (most recent first). Just a thought, REMEMBER Josh said you can't poke fun at this. :-)

Post: Selling: 1031 vs. Personal Residence

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20

Avoiding the 'lifestyle decision" of where you choose to live, the better (clearly better option) is to live in the property to get the exclusion. The 1031 rolls your basis into the next property resulting in a federal of the gain (and the lower basis lowers your depreciation tax shield). The primary residence recognizes the gain for tax and excludes it so you get the step-up in basis. (And you get CASH).

So in short on paper the exclusion is better, but there are a lot of qualitative considerations to consider as well (such as your preferences).

Post: 89 unit deal financing

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20

First, I sense some naïveté in many of your comments. First, it sounds like this clearly can't be financed by yourself. Second if you took on partners it would not be solely your business so you need to change your something-for-nothing attitude. Try looking at this from some of the different parties (seller, lender, partner) standpoint and see if they may see some concerns with how you are thinking about this deal. You may find yourself not adding the value you think you are adding...

Post: capital gains tax?

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20

I clearly know the difference, but as you noted above a lot of people with varying backgrounds could read this post, and as such the absolute tax advice you are giving is not really appropriate. You and I both might consider taking a more professional approach by caveating our responses by encouraging readers to not rely on a blog, but rather see their local tax professional before taking an action based on your response, seeing that we are both appear to be holding ourself out to the public as CPAs.

Post: capital gains tax?

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20

Steven, it is good to see that you are no longer painting with such broad strokes on this issue. About 90 percent of your most recent post is correct, so it seems we have made enough progress toward clarifying the issue to move on to bigger and better things.

Post: capital gains tax?

Tom C.Posted
  • Investor
  • Kingwood, TX
  • Posts 97
  • Votes 20

J Scott - Based on your podcast, you may be hard pressed to avoid dealer status. Remember, dealer status is solely based on your “primary investment intent.” Investment intent is inherently finalized on the “front end” of the transaction and should be seriously considered. People commonly let what they did tell the story of what they intended to do. These are different. If your intent is to "flip” the property you are a dealer as you are buying with the intent to sell. I am not suggesting a person with the intent to sell the property do this (sorry Stephen). I am not trying to be deceptive, rather I merely take exception with the initial, absolute comment that a quick-sale = self-employment income. Both I and a multitude of court cases disagree with that view.

I am not trying to be cute here, but I offer an example. A person buys a home and rehabs it with the intent to hold it. Later on, that person may get two great opportunities to do the same thing under contract; but to finance these next two investments this person must monetize the first investment to fund deals 2 & 3. In this example, all three of these deals were investments as the person intended to hold them as investments, but an after-the-fact review of what was actually done (rather than what was intended) may appear to create doubt regarding this original intent. [This is why you document what your true intent is] It is times like this that this person often asks someone, generally a tax preparer/CPA what the tax implications were, but when you ask them about the tax consequences, they will ask you to outline the details of the transaction but as I just mentioned these details DON’T create or reflect your real intent, as spelled out above. But ignorantly, the deal facts generally are left to tell the story because the taxpayer wasn’t documenting their real intent and honestly by the it was probably too late. When it comes to dealer vs investor, the burden of proof is with the taxpayer, so don’t let the unknown/uncontrollable future dictate the future perception of today’s intent.

SideNote: Stephen, you will generally always be successful with the IRS if you have your clients take the most punitive path through their return. Congrats on those great stats though. To correct your statement, dealer/investor status IS WHOLLY driven by your intent not your actions as you noted in your last point. Bill seems to have this right on point.

If you are buying a house at a discount with the intention hold the investment then you should document your primary intention is to hold the property as an investment. To do this, you should really be planning to hold the asset based on what you know at that point in time, but you should understand that the future may bring things beyond your control. You will want to document (put in your minutes and notarize) that your original investment intent may be changed by an unanticipated events generally beyond your control such as 1) you need money for working capital, 2) a change in market conditions, 3) availability of new investment opportunities, etc. You clearly would have comps for the rental of the building and upon completion of any rehab you would have plans to market for a tenant. And clearly you would document that proceeds from the sale would be used in their entirety for investment purposes.

This is, for a lot of investors, the actual thought process they go through and investors don’t “just sell” because the renovations done. Often times if there were no future “deal flow” the investor would prefer not to sell the asset but rather hold the asset as a rental (because they are primarily investors). Conversely, the dealer would always look first to sell the home even if there were no deals to be done as they’re primary business of being sellers (dealers).

Don’t get me wrong, this approach isn’t for everyone, but for some it fits their objectives/intentions perfectly, so I have developed a little of a peeve toward broad, uninformed statements like “flip income is self-employment income.” As anyone who knows these rules understands there are no real bright-lines here and often times you can go into a deal to buy and hold and end up selling it based on a wide array of unintended factors. Some just allow the periodic “quick-sales” to tell the story that they are a dealer when in reality only they know their intent…I am only suggesting you document it.