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All Forum Posts by: Tom Dieringer

Tom Dieringer has started 9 posts and replied 50 times.

Post: Rental agreement for a STR

Tom DieringerPosted
  • Investor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Michael Baum:

Thanks @Bruce Woodruff, PM me @Randy Cheval and I will send you one that I have.

Remember, I am not an attorney and it will need to be customized for your use.


MIchael was kind to share his with me and it made a solid base for the modifications we made - thanks again Michael!

Post: How Can I Improve My Welcome Basket Guests?

Tom DieringerPosted
  • Investor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 24

Great question, in particular, for those who don't live next door or down the street. I don't have the ability to bake cookies and run them over. We're in a semi-remote resort area and the nearest bakery is a half hour away. We're considering doing something like Dave's cookies via Amazon but that's only semi-fresh baked and subject to shipping damage.

Post: Giving VRBO a head start on Airbnb

Tom DieringerPosted
  • Investor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 24

Think I better clarify - this isn't an altruistic attempt to help VRBO 😄, but rather a hope that it might result in a higher overall booking rate if both platforms perform at a high level

Post: Giving VRBO a head start on Airbnb

Tom DieringerPosted
  • Investor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 24

Looking for thoughts on a strategy to help VRBO not get immediately buried by Airbnb and be permanently assigned to an “also ran” capacity. I realize that there are variables from market to market and property to property that could make VRBO more effective for a given property, but my understanding is that in general Airbnb bookings get out to such a dominant start in regard to percentage of the bookings, that VRBO and other lesser OTAs have trouble catching up.

One unvetted thought I’ve had for when I go live is to give VRBO a 1-2 week head start on our listing. It wouldn’t even be listed on Airbnb during this period so I wouldn’t get dinged by them for blocking the calendar. I would limit the open calendar days on VRBO to maybe only 30 or so out so as to not cause any/many issues (having too many dates show as booked) when I subsequently go live on Airbnb. After the head start period and hopefully getting a couple/few? VRBO bookings in that 30-day window, I would then go live with my Airbnb listing, open out the calendar a little bit further so adequate availability shows, and take advantage of it’s first week or two? of listing boost. In my mind, the reason for doing this would be to have two engaged platforms versus one dominant one.

What am I missing? Why is this not important in the long run? How could it backfire?  Thanks group!

Post: Where To Buy My First Rental Property

Tom DieringerPosted
  • Investor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 24

Some have mentioned the Tulsa market. Yes, it has low entry cost, growth, and is LL friendly. but it also has a couple shortfalls:

  • - Low to fair rents at best
  • - Low rent appreciation

I bought fairly smart, but still not smart enough to consider it an immediate good return. We are definitely dependent on that population and job growth to eventually gain some profit spread.

Quote from @Alice Fairbairn:

Hi everyone! 👋

Good thoughts Alice. Where are most of the better STR returns in Central OR right now? Nd what housing is currently attracting the highest CoC and total returns potential - studio - 1bd, 2 - 4bd, or 5+bd? 

Post: Looking for a contract to use for STR

Tom DieringerPosted
  • Investor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Michael Baum:

Send me a PM @Nick M.

May I have a copy as well  Michael? I'm not yet sure where I fall as to whether I use one or stick with the platform's agreement & house rules, but would like to have one in case
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

Whenever I had a max complainer who uttered a word about any review not at five stars, I immediately comped their stay, apologized, and made sure they didn't write the review (even when they were a scammer or crazy person). A 1-star scammer review isn't worth the money for the stay.

Jonathan, how do you "make sure" they don't write a bad review? I've dealt with thousands of reviews in my other companies, and I get how you increase the odds of not getting a bad review by comping, but there's always a couple crazys who still give a bad review.  And if you make it a quid pro quo, don't you run the risk of violating the OTA's policy of paying to alter reviews? 

Next, and again my current experience is in a different industry but one that's a highly dependent on Google reviews and ratings, I've found that there's always a break-even point where "paying someone off" doesn't provide enough of a return on the payoff.  I could see fully comping 1-2 nights at low season rates, particularly if one doesn't have a lot of reviews yet, but would you, as an established host with tons of reviews, comp a full week or more of a prime season stay?  Sorry for the huge questions.  :D

Post: The Next Deal...

Tom DieringerPosted
  • Investor
  • Oregon
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 24

I understand why you want to avoid a HELOC. I don't like paying interest on my down payment unless I know it's a temporary aid to get a good opportunity. I've done that on flips and LTRs. And maybe it's not all or nothing for a given method, sometimes a combination of various financing tools is what wins.

These are the posts and discussions that I love and select "follow." Great information from regular, experienced contributors whose opinions I value. Fortunately, even though I'm a newbie still in setup mode (working through renovations on a value added property) I'm already starting to recognize the right answers before reading the responses, thanks in big part to many of you. Thank you BP STR community!