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All Forum Posts by: Travis Biziorek

Travis Biziorek has started 7 posts and replied 1654 times.

Post: Detroit Housing Commission Section 8 System

Travis BiziorekPosted
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  • Arroyo Grande, CA
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I'd echo what Drew says.

While I don't have as much experience with DHC, I do have a few S8 tenants and definitely agree with his final thoughts... "If you're persistent, you can get things done, but it does take a lot of time."

That's definitely true. We just went through a rent increase on one of mine and I'm moving it over to a property manager and getting payments changed over has been a process. But it's tolerable if you stay on them and just expect that things take time.

Post: Investing in Ohio-Specifically Section 8

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Hey Nicholas,

If you’re looking at Section 8 investing in Ohio, I’d definitely encourage you to take a look at Detroit as well. The market has a lot of strong points right now: affordable entry prices, great rent-to-price ratios, and high demand for rentals, especially in the Section 8 space.

What’s even more exciting is the direction Detroit is heading. Property values have been appreciating rapidly in recent years, and the city’s population has started growing again—a trend we haven’t seen in decades.

I’m also based in California and have been investing in Detroit for several years, so I understand the concerns of out-of-state investing. That said, it’s been a great market for me—strong cash flow, significant appreciation, and plenty of opportunity for investors who take the time to understand the market’s nuances.

If you decide to explore Detroit further, feel free to reach out—I’m always happy to share insights and what I’ve learned along the way.

Good luck on your investing journey!

—Travis

Post: Comping Homes in Detroit

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Hey Caleb,

The short answer is yes—MLS systems are regional, so photo availability and listing practices can vary quite a bit. That said, even with photos, comping homes in Detroit proper is extremely difficult. You’ll often see sales with 100-200% swings within the same area, which makes having deep local knowledge and understanding the nuances absolutely critical.

I do this for a living, and even with experience, comping in Detroit can still be challenging. Whether you’re looking at SFHs, duplexes, or other properties, it’s important to pair on-paper data with boots-on-the-ground knowledge to really get a sense of values.

If you’re considering anything serious in Detroit, I’d recommend connecting with someone who knows the market inside and out. If you let us know more about what you're trying to accomplish I may be able to point you in the right direction.

—Travis

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@James Wise

can we add - be willing to be in it for 5-10-15+ years to weather those early storms?

i keep seeing:

1. buy out of state rental in a solid neighborhood with long-term potential (just as you are recommending) but then...

2. have one rough tenant turn that costs a couple grand, and

3. give up on real estate investing, and turn on everyone involved in the transaction for not guaranteeing that sweet cash flow in month 1


 I literally just had this conversation with a prospective client when he asked me what a typical outcome looks like.

I told him everyone nods and agrees when I drill into them the risks of investing OOS and in Detroit. But many of them think "that won't be me though!".

Inevitably, there are some that are not cut out for the turbulence and want to sell after less than a year of ownership. Then they're confused why they aren't going to break even when they have an a unit that needs work post-eviction. 


The people that have success truly understand there will be challenges and keep moving forward when they happen. 

Post: Looking for a cleaner for a short-term rental

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Hey Nicholle, you'll probably have more success through a site like Turno.com

Post: Update - Detroit Deal

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Quote from @Stuart Udis:

@Nathan Frost....  5% down can make STR especially since 5 bedrooms. Good cash flow.....Yeah just cant beat the deal.  How can you possibly believe this based on your own experiences thus far in the transaction and what others, particularly what Drew who has experience in this market has told you?  For goodness sake, having to remove mechanicals in between tenants means you are buying the worst of the worst assets properties imaginable. 

You appear to be an investor who only cares about their spreadsheet's best possible outcome without any regard for risk. You say its good cash flow. How will you collect rent when the building's mechanicals are stolen again? STR....I can only imagine the groups of individuals who will rent this house on a short term basis. Are you going to send over a PM to remove your mechanicals in between each STR occupant if there's down periods with no occupancy? A price reduction doesn't solve the issues this property presents. It sounds to me like you're acquiring a liability.


I own and operate a STR in Detroit. And I just did a big write up on it.

Short of it is it does well, and no I'm not removing mechanicals between stays lol

Post: Is the Detroit land bank any good

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Quote from @Natalie Allie:

If you are still considering the Land Bank in Detroit listings, just be careful to check with the city on whether or not the water needs to be reconnected. This can end up costing thousands more dollars, which can obviously affect your margins. 


I don't believe you can check this beforehand. Some lines they will say have been "cut" but they put in a disclaimer on all sales that they don't know if a line might be cut.

Post: Guidance on OOS markets to get into

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Hey Kent,

It sounds like you're making a smart move to consider out-of-state investing, especially with the criteria you've set. I'd suggest giving Detroit a closer look. I personally started investing there in 2019 with a budget not too far off from yours, and I've been able to build up a portfolio of 12 doors since then, which now kicks off over $16,500 in gross monthly rents.

Detroit has a lot going for it—affordable price points, strong rental demand, and good opportunities for cash flow, especially with single-family homes and duplexes in certain areas. The market can be tricky with its block-by-block nature, but it's been a great fit for all-cash purchases like yours.

I also have a team on the ground in Detroit that helps manage everything from finding deals to overseeing rehabs, which is crucial for out-of-state investors. If you're interested in diving into Detroit and want to talk more or need some insights, feel free to reach out.

Wishing you the best on your journey out of San Diego investing!

—Travis

Post: Selling Investment Property to Pay Down Primary Mortgage

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Hey Samantha, I'm personally not a fan of paying off mortgages—especially fixed-rate long-term debt like yours. With historical inflation in mind, that mortgage is essentially an asset. Plus, given where rates are right now, I genuinely believe we're at or near a local peak.

I expect rates will head lower soon, maybe revisiting 6% in the coming months. In fact, I've got some bets in the markets that hinge on this happening. The incoming administration definitely won't want high rates for long either, which might work in your favor.

My two cents: I'd hold onto both properties. This is fixed-rate debt that you'll probably be thankful for down the line. If things are tight right now, maybe consider a side hustle or extra job until rent adjustments give you more breathing room. I think if you sell now, there's a good chance you’ll look back in 5-10 years and regret letting go of such good debt.

Post: What are your real estate investing goals for 2025?

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Quote from @Gregory Chadwell:
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:

For 2025, my main goal is to stack up cash—ideally $500k or more. With that capital, I’m planning to either dive into a larger multifamily project in Detroit or grab a small duplex or quad in San Francisco.

To reach that $500k mark, I’m leaning on the power of cash-out refinancing. I’ve been investing in Detroit for several years, and some of my properties have built up significant equity. Just recently, I completed a cash-out refi on a duplex I picked up in 2019, and pulled out $103k. I've got a few more properties with a similar plan in mind—refinance, extract the equity, and use that to build toward my bigger target.

The goal for me this year isn't just to buy more doors, but to make a strategic leap into larger-scale projects. Detroit has been great for cash flow, but now I’m looking at how I can scale up. Multifamily is top of mind since it provides a mix of efficiency and long-term growth. On the flip side, a duplex or quad in SF would be a strong move for appreciation and diversification. I think San Francisco might be a bit undervalued right now, which makes it an interesting opportunity. Plus, years down the road, I plan to split my time between SF and Detroit, so this would be a step in that direction.

Another major focus for 2025 is a personal project: we recently completed a large ADU build at our primary residence here in California. We're moving into the ADU ourselves starting in January so we can remodel our main home. That remodel is going to take both time and capital, so it's a key part of my plans as well.

Would love to hear how others are approaching similar goals—anyone else tapping into equity or gearing up for larger projects? And if anyone's considering doing some Detroit deals, I'm always happy to chat!


 Good move, I believe the rates are going to get better in the first quarter of next year too!


They absolutely are. I don't think we go super low. But I wouldn't be surprised to see us settle in the low 6.00% range.

I have some aggressive bets in stocks and long duration bonds that will benefit if/when that happens. If you look at charts it's pretty obvious we've already made the turn on bonds/rates.