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All Forum Posts by: Tanner Lewis

Tanner Lewis has started 1 posts and replied 431 times.

Post: DSCR Loan for 15 units

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DSCR probably wouldn't work for this since most lenders cap out at 10 units. The best bet is to take this commercial.

Post: DSCR Docs Requirement

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Quote from @Jacqueline Wright:

It's common for DSCR lenders to require additional documents like Social Security records and tax transcripts, even after providing proof of funds and your mortgage statement. While DSCR loans usually focus on property income, some lenders still verify your personal financials for added security. Every lender has different requirements, and this can vary based on their underwriting policies. If you're concerned, it's a good idea to clarify with your lender or shop around for one with more lenient requirements.

Bank statements: yes

SSN cards: occasionally, mainly when citizenship abnormalities or Fraud alerts on credit

I have never collected a tax return in hundreds of DSCR loans

Post: More than one second home in the same location?

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The main thing here is that the property should be "available to stay in" for 180+ days a year. I suggest doing this with a DSCR loan if you intend to use it as an investment property.

You can check the Freddie guidelines here:  https://guide.freddiemac.com/app/guide/section/4201.15 

Post: What's the best strategy to find a buyer for a STR?

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Quote from @Deepanshu Madan:

I am looking to sell a STR, Are there buyers who buy a fully furnished property? or do I need to empty it? What should be right way to find these investor buyers in the market? I am out of state and don't know a lot about the Jacksonville market today.

The property also has firepit in the backyard, smart door lock, cameras, thermostat, and router installed. The appliances are also all brand new installed this year- fridge, dishwasher, and washer/dryer.


Hey Deepanshu - you would likely need to state that all personal property being sold has no transfer value or have a separate contract for the sale of the furnishings. This depends don't the lender, and you can honestly just amend the PSA if needed. 

Post: Investment Loans (DSCR?)

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Quote from @Aamna Kidwai:

Hi Everyone, 

I am trying to understand if lenders for DSCR loans will take midterm rental rates into account or only long term rents of the area? This would be specifically for a property that doesn't have previous rental history. What would you guys say are the downsides of DSCR loans? Are there other loan products similar to the DSCR loans that can also be utilized for investment properties?

Additionally if anyone is a broker and can help find the best loan terms for DSCR (or other investment loans) in the Cincinnati Ohio area please let me know!

Thank you,

Aamna

Hey Aamna - assuming this is an acquisition, this one would be treated as a STR acquisition, so it would be qualified using AirDNA

Post: Final Steps before commiting to my first out of state rental.

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Quote from @Miguelli Fernandez:

Been doing a lot of research and prep work and feeling ready to start putting offers. Few questions still.

1. If I use a HELOC or HELOAN from my primary residence to buy a rental, will the mortgage interest be able to offset the rental's income? (I have read it can't be which is why I'm at this point considering just going with a 30 year conventional loan and putting the 15% or 25% for SFH or MFH.

2. I'm based in California but plan to buy rentals in Cleveland Ohio. Where should I form my LLC? California or Ohio? Getting conflicting info.


1. HELOC/HELOAN Interest Deduction

  • You might be able to deduct HELOC/HELOAN interest against rental income if you can trace the loan to the rental purchase. However, this is tricky.
  • A conventional loan tied directly to the rental will make the mortgage interest easier to deduct.

2. Where to Form Your LLC

  • Ohio LLC - since your rentals are there. It’s cheaper, and you avoid California’s $800 annual franchise tax.
  • If you form in California, you’ll pay fees in both states (California and Ohio).

But I would setup an LLC in WY and appoint your Ohio LLC as the manager of the WY LLC and put it all in a land trust. You want to maintain anonymity and protect yourself from liabilities at all times! Real Estate is a very litigious industry especially when dealling with tenants.


What about a DSCR loan interest deduction? Since it'll be tied to the rental assuming it would be. Can anyone confirm?


If the question is "will higher rental income lead to a better rate with a DSCR loan" the answer is generally yes. With DSCR, you will qualify the deal based on the property's income and not your W2 income. Reach out if you want to explore this option!

Post: Waaa??? Single Family Home Valuation if used as STR

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Anything 1-4 units is valued off the sales comp approach, so no, income does not factor in. Anything 5+ units is valued off of the income approach, but I would check with your lender before going out and getting a 5+ unit STR. Most lenders won't do this property type, and some will also value it based on LTR market rents.

Post: How do you effectively choose a real estate agent: The Real, Real Estate Agents?

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Hey Jason - I suggest checking out the BiggerPockets "Building your team -> agents" tab

Post: Final Steps before commiting to my first out of state rental.

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Quote from @Miguelli Fernandez:

Been doing a lot of research and prep work and feeling ready to start putting offers. Few questions still.

1. If I use a HELOC or HELOAN from my primary residence to buy a rental, will the mortgage interest be able to offset the rental's income? (I have read it can't be which is why I'm at this point considering just going with a 30 year conventional loan and putting the 15% or 25% for SFH or MFH.

2. I'm based in California but plan to buy rentals in Cleveland Ohio. Where should I form my LLC? California or Ohio? Getting conflicting info.


California LLCs are a nightmare. Most attorneys in California advise against them as they cost about $800/year, and you also have to transfer a property into your personal name before a sale, so they do not help with anonymity. 

I suggest an Ohio LLC nested within a Wyoming LLC (set up through a registered agent service). If you are unfamiliar with the process, I would reach out to a lawyer to set you up correctly.

Post: DSCR Docs Requirement

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Devin Peterson

@Robin Simon

I have multiple DSCR loans, including one brokered via The One Brokerage, David Greene's company. They've always wanted two years of tax returns.

I know everyone says you "don't need anything" for DSCR loans, but I've always found that you... do.

The key difference is of course that your DTI ratio plays no role in qualifying for the loan.

I obviously can't speak for OP's experience and don't know who her lender is.

Hey Nicholas - most one-stop shop brokers look at lending options other than DSCR. They likely collected these upfront to determine the best loan product (likely wanted to compare with a full doc loan). If they collected these documents during underwriting, that means it was likely full doc loan which essentially qualifies based on cash flow with DTI + DSCR.