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All Forum Posts by: Tadeh Vartanian

Tadeh Vartanian has started 3 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: Is this the start of the recession

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17

@Matt Higgins

As someone in the medical field (pharmacist) I can tell you that the coronavirus is a big public health issue but one that I doubt will rattle the global markets permanently. As another case study, the Spanish Flu of 1918 led to 675,000 deaths in the US alone. The stock market then went on to the roaring 20s with amazing growth.

Post: Detroit, MI or Greensboro, NC

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17

Thank you, everyone, in the BP community for the input. I'll take all this into account and have a clearer picture of where I'll want to go. So far leaning towards NC.

I'll keep you all updated!

Post: Detroit, MI or Greensboro, NC

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17
Hi Shiloh,
Are you currently living in Burbank, CA? I live close by there, glad to see out of state investors looking into this area as well. If so, let's connect.

Yes, if I had to visit a property in Greensboro, it would be great to make it into a family trip.

Originally posted by @Shiloh Lundahl:

@Tadeh Vartanian I am planning on investing in the Triad Area of North Carolina. We purchased one house there last month and we are under contract to close on 2 more this month.  We plan on buying 24 houses in the Greensboro, Winston-Salem, and High Point area this year and another 24 next year using the BRRRLO Model.

We are buying there for everything you stated above plus the fact that North Carolina is really a cool state. I lived there for a summer as a camp counselor at a high adventure boy’s camp and if you like the outdoors, then you’ll love North Carolina. Esse Quam Videri - To Be Rather Than to Seem.

Post: Detroit, MI or Greensboro, NC

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for this entire wealth of information! I'll be sure to keep track of these references over time.
You made a lot of great points!

Originally posted by @Jeremy Chaudet:

Hi @Tadeh Vartanian

To me, this seems like an easy answer. If you do not live or have any links in either market, I would pick Greensboro for many of the reason that you mentioned.

-NC landlord friendlier laws: https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/renting/states-best-worst-laws-renters/

-migration overall is trending south: https://www.jchs.harvard.edu/state-nations-housing-2018

-NC is fiscally healthy (#9 ranking vs #32 in Michgan): https://www.mercatus.org/publications/urban-economics/state-fiscal-rankings

-NC is a great state to do business in: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/10/americas-top-states-for-business-2019.html

-Greensboro has an increasing population

-Detroit has a declining population

-NC has better weather

-from a quick google search, Detroit has among the highest property tax rates in the country

-property tax rates in Greensboro are low depending on where you are coming from

Not only does Greensboro have a population of about 290,000 people but it is within 30 minutes of Winston-Salem (244K population) and High Point NC (111K population). The entire Triad metro has a population of about 1.6M people. And you are right, it is also within a couple of hours from either Raleigh or Charlotte, NC.

Post: Detroit, MI or Greensboro, NC

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17

Hi everyone,

New investor from California looking into deciding which market to start off in. I've narrowed my search down to Detroit, MI or Greensboro, NC. Two very different markets.

I would love some input from the BP community. My strategy is to buy and hold, targeting small multifamily or possibly single-family homes. Cash flow properties are a must, though I'm okay with lower COC return in exchange for more appreciation, market stability, or other benefits. Here are some factors I've considered already:


- NC is a more landlord-friendly state (source: rentcafe)
- Detroit has a higher population size, around 670,000, whereas Greensboro is around 290,000 (source: US Census)
- Detroit has a lower price/rent ratio (5.35) than Greensboro (15.84) (source: SmartAsset)
- Both have a price range I'm looking for
- NC has more cities to go if I choose to move to another city later on (Charleston, Raleigh).
- Better weather in Greensboro.
- Lower property taxes in NC.

Post: Would you hold or sell this investment? Seeking advice

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17

@Paul Hansen

Calculate the Internal Rate of Return, or IRR. That calculation best captures your return with a time factor baked into it. I'd choose a time discount rate of something around 8% in the calculations. What you may see is that your IRR maxes out after a time period and that if the rents really aren't going up that much but home prices are, might be better to sell.

Post: How to House Hack with a Family

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17

@Ryan Garrison

Maybe a duplex with a large detached garage, then convert the garage to a unit.

Post: What would you do BRRRR OR SALE?

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17

@Wes Barnes

Making a business partner satisfied could be better than picking the perfect strategy. Sell it, be happy with your profits, move on to the next deal. And keep your relationship with him/her happy so that if you ever need financing or advice, they can help.

Post: Cash out refi a rental property at 80% LTV or higher?

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17

@John D.

I’m planning to use my business checking account with local credit union to establish that business ahead of time. Never know when you’ll want pending help from them.

Post: Newbie from Los Angeles County

Tadeh VartanianPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 17

@Tony Tran

Welcome Tony. I’m an investor here too in Los Angeles. I invest out of state, though. You looking for local properties?