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All Forum Posts by: Susan O.

Susan O. has started 69 posts and replied 547 times.

Originally posted by @Ryan Scott Isacksen:

Hi @Susan O.,

First off, thank you for being one of the many investors that has helped restore places that were in bad condition and turn around areas where the property you worked on was at.

Are your rental properties in a rent controlled area right now (I'm guessing pasadena)?

One of the property managers I spoke with in Fresno suggested local politics there doesn't support going towards rent control anytime soon.

You're correct.  But I have a lot of friends in real estate all over California, good hard working people.  They wanted to invest in real estate to make something better and improve neigbhorhoods and get out of the rat race.  You know, save for retirement.  Some friends I know broke their stocks and retirement savings put it in real estate locally only to get burned by rent control and housing inspectors really crushing them. 

I was an agent once and hustled my butt of sacrificing a lot to get what I have today. 

Property owners and real estate industry is under attack.  Even vendors who provide for our investment like property managers, handymen, plumbers, you name it are under attack by this.  It's the hard working folk who will have to provide for all the "entitled" people. 

It's like we spend so much time learning how to invest, then you buy property and sacrifice tons in time money and then they want to take it from you.

WE NEED TO GET POLITICAL!

Get active people: 

Anyways here's a link to contact your local politicians:

This CAA site also has some thing you fill out your local address and it auto sends to any politicians/ reps of yours

Post: Insurance spec questions in Carlifornia - duplex,

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181

As far as umbrella could that cover multiple properties like apartments, duplexes and commercial properties? All owned by same person?

Post: Insurance spec questions in Carlifornia - duplex,

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181
Originally posted by @John Mocker:

Susan,

The Building coverage generally comes in two types:

  1.  Replacement Cost (RC) - cost to rebuild from the foundation on up.  It is independent of the purchase price.  I've seen rental homes sell for $75,000 but have a cost to rebuild of $300,000 or more.  The Replacement Cost varies based on the location.   Most companies have estimating programs to calculate what they require for the Replacement Cost.  

2.   Actual Cash Value (ACV) - is Replacement Cost less the Depreciation.  This coverage is more common on properties that can't be insured in the regular market (ie. bad condtion, vacant, etc.).   The disadvantage of the this coverage is that in a full loss or a partial loss, the company is going to deduct for deprecation.  The advantage is, because you are insuring lower limits, the cost is often cheaper.

Most policies have a built in Limit for Loss or Rents (may also be listed as Business Income).  Make sure that you have that coverage and if so, is the limit adequate.

For Liability, purchase the max you can get.  Most Dwelling Fire Policies max out at $500,000.  Take that option and then get an Umbrella policy.  That policy will pickup if the Liability coverage of the underlying policy is exhausted by a covered claim.  Generally it is sold in increments of $1,000,000.   If the agent you have can not get it for all your properties there are stand alone markets for the umbrella coverage.

The rates you quote would be very competitive in many areas.   The thing to check is, what is being covered (there are different levels of coverage) and what optional coverage is included.  If the policy is not "Special Form" for the Building, you should ask for quotes at that level. 

Some optional coverage that may be valuable for you (depending on the propery):

- backup of sewers & drains

- Ordinance & Law (if building codes require rebuilding differently)

- Personal Injury (Liability for Libel, Slander, ...)

Non Insurance Risk Management ideas that you can look into are:

- review your contracts

- require Tenants to have a Renters policy

- look at advantages of LLC for each property

- Pet policy (many companies will not write policies if certain breeds of dogs are at the property)

Thanks.  Do you know average rates of general liability or business liability for $1m or $2m?  Just a ballpark?  I'm really afraid that the 500k on fire insurance will get exhausted if there was a really bad event like death and a big lawsuit.

The liability would in general protect me in that sense?

Post: Rent Control Strategies

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181

Also it's a misconception that rents would just skyrocket if there were no rent controls.

Most landlords don't bother hiking up rents each year. 

They want to avoid turnover or are simply mom/pop lanldords that are just happy with the rents they get and are pretty passive, like out of state landlords etc.

But when you have a system like rent control that is unbalanced you have new units that are pushed to the max rents and old units that are stuck in rent control.  So when new units come on market the landlord knows they have to push it to the very top of rent the market will bear.

If there was no rent control then landlords often think-- oh i'll just raise the rent later and if it does come on market they don't try to push the rent to the very top because they know that at some point they can raise the rents. 

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/...

This explains it somewhat I think

Post: New Member From Los Angeles

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181

Where I was I had a few non payments had to go through UD court and they destroyed the property-long story short. 

Then when I put it back on market I had to give concessions to get them rented like no security deposit and the rents were about 20% lower than they were in 2007.

I'm fine with boom and bust as that's natural. But it's when the politicians step in, without any clue of how to run a business or how hard it is in the real world, try to make the laws as band aid attempts to get votes.  That's why they pass rent control laws. It's a vote getter.  Sounds great to all renters then the housing supply diminishes due to the rent controls.  And they put the blame on hard working investors and property owners

Post: Rent Control Strategies

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181

Youre actually not allowed to do cash for keys in cities like LA. Possibly in other cities. 

http://www.laweekly.com/news/la-moves-to-curb-cash...

They cracked down on landlords  even offering as much as $75,000 to tenants to leave! it's like having to bribe someone even though it's YOUR property

Also if you want to be an owner occupier in LA you have to pay up to $22k in relocation fees.

If you try to give cash for keys you can get fined and open a lawsuit in a lot of cities with rent control.  it's illegal under rent control rules.

http://hcidla.lacity.org/Relocation-Assistance up to $23k/ family for relocating older tenants

Post: New Member From Los Angeles

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181

I agree the free market is what drove rents down so low in 2008 and is now bringing them high again. 

If you try to explain supply and demand to a California politician they'll look at you like a deer in headlights.  This is what messed up our housing supply and also is what is making businesses   (jobs) leave California messing up our economy.  That's why we're a boom bust state. They put too much regulation and it messes up those that put a lot into the community.

Post: looking for a investor-friendly east bay agent

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181
Originally posted by @Ryan Landis:

@Brent Tarnow thanks! 

http://sfbayview.com/2015/09/how-big-money-stole-r...

What do you agents think of this Richmond rent control stuff

http://www.tenantstogether.org/

It's been spreading like wild fire.  It looks good on paper for a year or so for renters. But over many years it negatively impacts communities-

http://www.nmhc.org/News/The-High-Cost-of-Rent-Con...

Post: New Member From Los Angeles

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181
Originally posted by @David Faulkner:
Originally posted by @Lee Ripma:

Hi @Matt Friedman,

I also invest out of state in Kansas City. I split my time between LA and San Diego. The price of entry in KC is much lower and the cash-flow is good in theory. I just got my first 7 units and I'm doing rehabs on all of them. I think if you're going to look in LA commercial (5 units and over) is the way to go. Less competition and much less price per unit. You've got to watch out for tenants rights though. For that reason outside the City of LA is better. East LA doesn't have rent control. 

Good advice on LA ... I would also advise taking a look at Antelope Valley (Lancaster & Palmdale) ... a bit farther out, but still driving distance, much lower prices, no rent control, and better day 1 cash flow. A few warnings though just to paint a complete picture, you will not likely see full LA appreciation in rent or prices there (but perhaps still better than out of state), you need to "cherry pick" the better neighborhoods to avoid the really rough stuff (especially on the East Side) and make sure you get in where you are willing and able to stay in because this area tends to get hit harder than others in a downturn. There are pluses and minuses to everything.

Bakersfield is another such local but less expensive rental market, but I have no personal experience there so cannot comment much on that ...

 You mean "no rent control" at this time.  Things can change quickly especially with AB1506

AB1506 http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-costa-hawkin...

We all need to vote against any politicians supporting rent control in California!

Trust me @matt , make sure to check if any new investments are rent controlled and to read up on the change in California laws.  You should still invest as the above have encouraged... just be careful and stay active!

Post: berkeley rent control

Susan O.Posted
  • Fresno, CA
  • Posts 552
  • Votes 181

The thing is the rules for Rent control are changing soon.  @Ryan Scott Isacksen is correct the income is based on today. You might not be able to raise rents in the future if AB1506 passes. Then each city can make up whatever rules they want- like making newer houses go under rent control like SFRs too.

So essentially you can pay those expensive Berkley prices for the property then it won't cashflow due to rent control and issues like 60 day notice  ceiling like @Ori Skloot mentioned

Soon you might not be able to even give a 30 or 60 day notice.... You won't be able to give any notice without "just cause eviction" basically you can never get them out of your property...

Here's background info on the rent control changes in Cali

https://www.buildium.com/blog/ab-1506-threatens-re...

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2015/09/14/landlord...

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-costa-hawkin...