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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 9 posts and replied 122 times.

Post: Duplex Analysis - Cincinnati, OH: 2 property options

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I will certainly thank him for his service @David Bermanski and I agree, appreciation may or may not happen - my analysis definitely does not speculate on it though. I've heard a few local investors say that it is considered the next "it" place; only time will tell. I have decided that for what I'm looking for, neither deal here makes the cut. Thanks for solidifying that, as well as the rest of the people on this thread! I was excited but the numbers simply don't pan out.

Post: Duplex Analysis - Cincinnati, OH: 2 property options

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Following the sage advice here on BP, I made sure NOT to form any emotional attachments to the properties @John Blythe, so it made it easier to move on! I really appreciate everyone helping me see that settling just so I can say I "have" a property is a terrible idea and certainly is a bad move if I want to consider myself an investor! 

I'm glad to hear you were able to get the property to cash flow. On the bright side, you learned a great lesson for all your deals going forward!

Post: Duplex Analysis - Cincinnati, OH: 2 property options

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Thanks George! I've definitely decided to keep looking. 

Post: Duplex Analysis - Cincinnati, OH: 2 property options

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Originally posted by @George Emmons:

William is right Tiara,  My Family owns and operates a medium size property management company here in Cincinnati.  I would assume a 10% management fee not 8%.  Those companies that offer 8% usually have a leasing fee that is usually the first months rent.  So you have to figure, 8%  plus 1 leasing fee per year.  That will bring you back up to the 10% mark if not higher.  If you would like to know how our company works and our payment structure feel free to msg me.

Cheers!

George

 Thank you for clarifying! I'll be sure to reach out once I get a property under contract. 

Post: Duplex Analysis - Cincinnati, OH: 2 property options

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Originally posted by @William Walker:

For the PM rate your best bet would be to call one or two of the PM companies you're thinking about using and ask them their rates and any other fees.  Mine charges a %, but there is a fee for placing a new tenant, renewing a tenant, and for twice yearly inspections with photos and a report. 8% seems low to me but it might just be the area. I don't think 8% is unheard of or anything, I was just curious. 

That's good about minimal Capex. I'm not sure I understand going with one of these deals with no money down and then putting money down on a different investment property. Maybe just choose one to focus on for now.

And I'm not really a fan of the $100 a door theme. If the house cost 30k or if the house costs 200k, that's a big deference on your return. I would look at the rest of the numbers before saying $100 a door is good.   I can't tell you an exact # as each investor had their own goals, but I think the vast majority would say the returns aren't enough for these deals with the way they are structured. 

 Thanks for your detailed response! I'll certainly reach out to the PM companies as well as really get more specific with my numbers. 

Post: Any great real estate brokers in Florida ?

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Originally posted by @Jeff Riber:

Hey @Account Closed what areas of town are you considering?

 Well we haven't quite decided yet. Ideally 10-15 minutes from the Mayport Naval Base. 20 minutes would be acceptable too. Do you happen to have any suggestions? 

Post: Any great real estate brokers in Florida ?

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I'm following this as well. My husband is currently Active Duty Navy stationed in Jacksonville, FL. We've lived here for a few years and are contemplating buying a MF here. Any great contacts for Jacksonville?

Post: Duplex Analysis - Cincinnati, OH: 2 property options

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Originally posted by @William Walker:

@Account Closed

Do you have a reputable PM company that has quoted 8%?

Are the sale prices firm on these, or is the price you listed what you think you can negotiate for the properties?

Can you and your husband put money down on the properties to increase your cash flow?

What state are the properties in?  What level repairs do they need and will they need any major repairs such as a roof anytime soon?

If these numbers are all firm, then I agree with their isn't enough cash flow per door. 

 I have not settled on a PM company yet; however, after consulting with a few current investors in the area and a few RE Agents, I was advised to use 8%. Would you recommend a different figure? The prices listed are reasonable prices I can negotiate, per the RE Agent I am working with. There is even wiggle room to negotiate further, though I preferred to keep it conservative. 

While we do have some money we could put down, we really just wanted to take advantage of the 0% VA Loan and use the rest for a down payment on an investor property a few months from our first purchase. I'd rather find a better deal than to make force these. The properties are both in Cincinnati, OH. Repairs would be minimal to none with at least 5 or so years without any major CapEx.

For future reference, is $100 per door the goal to shoot for generally? If not, what approximate amount per door cash flow do you personally use as a guide?

Thank you for adding to the conversation! 

Post: Duplex Analysis - Cincinnati, OH: 2 property options

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Originally posted by @Ben Gammon:

Depends on the condition of the home and the scope of the rehab but I generally do 5% for maintenance and 5% for CapEx.

Oh, well I'm covered then. I bumped up the whole category to about 12%, so approx. 4% maintenance and 8% CapEx. Thanks for sharing yours too!

Post: Duplex Analysis - Cincinnati, OH: 2 property options

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Hi @Ben Gammon. I'll definitely try harder then! Yes, I rolled them in together since the spreadsheet I was using broke the expenses out that way. Would you recommend them being separate? If so, what percentage would you say for each? Thank you!