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All Forum Posts by: Steven Libman

Steven Libman has started 25 posts and replied 44 times.

Post: 66 unit acquisition and turn

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

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Post: 84 Unit with value add components

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $3,175,000
Cash invested: $1,915,000

National Road is an 84-unit complex developed in 1963 and includes a simple mix of 79 one-bedroom apartments and 5 two-bedroom apartments.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

28 down units makes for great immediate upside for renovation and market rents, while the other 56 units are below market rents by 25%.. There is an on-site office, which can be converted back into a two-unit, making the count 78 and 6. National Road offers affordable living with a home-style feel. The floorplans are all identical, and with tenants paying all utilities, are hassle-free and easy to maintain.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Broker

How did you finance this deal?

Bridge loan, 3 year IO to perm

How did you add value to the deal?

• Down Units – 28 Units
o $532,000.00
• Hallways and Stairwells
o $24,000.00
• Upgrade Existing Units – 56 Units
o $582,400.00
• Exterior Building
o $43,000.00
• General Property
o $55,700.00
Overall Budget $1,237,100.00

What was the outcome?

executing capex plan now

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We had owner financing in place for 850k. Last minute the bank would not allow subordinate financing, so we negotiated 850k as an LP position. Seller did not like this so pulled his 850k- we had to scramble to raise 850k in 3 days

Post: 84 Unit with value add components

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $3,175,000
Cash invested: $1,915,000

National Road is an 84-unit complex developed in 1963 and includes a simple mix of 79 one-bedroom apartments and 5 two-bedroom apartments. There is an on-site office, which can be converted back into a two-unit, making the count 78 and 6. National Road offers affordable living with a home-style feel. The floorplans are all identical, and with tenants paying all utilities, are hassle-free and easy to maintain.
National is poised for new ownership with a value-add mentality. There are 28 units (14 on each ground floor) that are down to the studs. Estimated rehab cost is $15,000 per unit. The remaining 56 units are all occupied and could use some rehab. Currently, the average rental rate is $465 per month. Upon completion of rehab, National will rent for about $625-675 per month for one bedroom units and $675-750 for two-bedroom units. Note that current in-place gross income is approximately $315,000.
National Road is outfitted with tenant-paid gas forced air furnaces, electric through the wall A/C units, and individual, gas hot water tanks for each unit. All units have their own water meter. There are 4 water main bills. LL pays this, and tenants pay their own metered share to LL. There are two common area laundry facilities on site (one in each building).

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

28 down units makes for great immediate upside for renovation and market rents, while the other 56 units are below market rents by 25%

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Broker

How did you finance this deal?

Bridge loan, 3 year IO to perm

How did you add value to the deal?

• Down Units – 28 Units
o $532,000.00
• Hallways and Stairwells
o $24,000.00
• Upgrade Existing Units – 56 Units
o $582,400.00
• Exterior Building
o $43,000.00
• General Property
o $55,700.00
Overall Budget $1,237,100.00

What was the outcome?

executing capex plan now

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We had owner financing in place for 850k. Last minute the bank would not allow subordinate financing, so we negotiated 850k as an LP position. Seller did not like this so pulled his 850k- we had to scramble to raise 850k in 3 days

Post: 66 unit acquisition and turn

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $2,244,000
Cash invested: $800,000

Integrity Holdings Group is pleased to present Shiloh Crossings
located in Columbus, Ohio. Columbus is the only midwest city in the list of 15 fastest growing cities in the
country, and is now larger than San Francisco with continued economic and population growth. Cambridge
Apartments is a 66-unit complex developed in 1967, and includes a mix of 52 one-bedroom apartments and
14 two-bedroom apartments. Integrity Holdings Group contracted the property at 73% of asking price.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

purchased at 33k a door, 73% of asking price. Tenant and unit turn needed to achieve market rents, current rents were 30% below where market value is.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Local broker

How did you finance this deal?

Bridge to perm loan. 2 year IO.

How did you add value to the deal?

turning tenant base, all interior units, all common areas, sealing and striping the parking lot, redoing the roof/some windows and fascia issues.

What was the outcome?

still in the process of turning the project, but are achieving proforma rents on turned units

Lessons learned? Challenges?

tenant base was worse than we expected. high levels of drug use and security issues ate into the inital capex budget

Post: Paying Less Taxes via Commercial Investment

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45
You Too Can Pay Less in Taxes!

When I first started my entrepreneurial journey, I used to think of CPAs, accountants, and the IRS as the necessary evil that I just have to deal with. Ten years later, I understand how detrimental it can be to brush those things aside. The Tax Code offers so many opportunities to those who know how to utilize it.

Our CPA, Jordan Empey from SKR + Co, was a big part of that mindset shift for me. His company taught us a lot about commercial real estate investing and the tax benefits you get in that space. We switched from the residential fix and flip business to full-time commercial because we understood we would keep a lot more of our money.

Today I invited Jordan to share that knowledge with you because these tax benefits are there for the taking. Financial literacy is the key!

“The Tax Code isn't out to get you—it actually presents opportunities to reduce our taxable income.” - Steven Libman

The Tax Benefits You Need to Know About

Jordan has been a tax partner at a CPA firm that’s been around for 25 years. He’s specialized in real estate deals, be it multifamily or land development. Some of the main tax benefits he mentioned in our talk were capital gain rates and depreciation, so let’s talk about that!

Short vs. Long-term Capital Gain

Capital gain investments include anything held over a year. And as one of the founding partners of SKR + Co put it: "You'll never go broke paying capital gains tax." Why is that?

Capital gains rates are often better than ordinary income tax rates. While your income can be taxed up to 40%, some capital gain rates are near zero.

Getting into long-term investment deals is something that you should plan if you want to build generational wealth. The quicker you get to capital gains rates, the better.

These types of investments can be built over time. If you have a rolling portfolio, you can use losses from new investments to offset gains from an older investment. That way, you can build a healthy passive, or active income subject to capital gains tax.

Depreciation

Depreciation recapture happens when you sell a property. That means that when you buy a property, you get to recapture some of the purchase cost over time. And if you’re in the top earners’ bracket, you get to benefit from the 12% difference between your max tax bracket and 37%. Over time, that 12% you get on recapture can compound into significant amounts that you can then roll back in other investments.

Real Estate Professional vs. a Passive Investor

To become a real estate professionals, you have to spend more than half of your time working in real estate-related fields. However, there are a lot of investors who are limited partners and who invest passively.

The biggest difference between the two is that real estate professionals can take losses today. Passive investors and limited partners still get the losses, but there’s a difference in timing.

What's more, all passive investments get grouped. If you have any other passive income, the real estate losses, such as depreciation, go into that bucket, and you get a loss. For example, if you get a million dollars from somewhere else and a million dollars of depreciation, you don't pay tax because they are all set to zero.

And if you put money into an active investment, you will pay active income tax. But with passive investments, you can compound losses over the years. The delta continues to grow along with your depreciation, and that’s how generational wealth is created.

The CARES Act and What Does It Mean for You

The CARES Act was adopted to support people during the pandemic. One of the things that were introduced was the net operating loss carryback.

Before the tax reform in 2018, you could always carryback and get money back from the government for the losses you had in the current year. However, the IRS tan made it mandatory for the losses to go forward so you can never get the cashback, but basically, just offset future taxes.

The CARES Act changed that, and they reinstated a five-year carryback. That means you can choose whether you want to carry your losses forward or back, which opened up a cash scenario for a lot of people. The decision isn't so clear cut, however, and strategizing is key in this situation.

Another thing that came into play is the possibility to defer payroll taxes for a while, even if you got the PPP. And for heavy real estate investors, an important thing to note is the excess business losses. The CARES Act introduced a lot of changes that could impact you differently in different tax brackets, and Jordan thinks there's still more to be rolled out.

Wall Street vs. Real Estate Investments

Obviously, we prefer commercial real estate, but I wanted to know what Jordan thought, tax-wise, was a better investment for passive investors. Why choose one or the other?

With the market, everything is a little bit out of control. What Jordan likes about real estate is that there’s a sense of ownership and tangibility. You can quantify the risk on a smaller scale and get immense tax benefits. There’s also a feeling of pride in taking a more active role in your financial future.

The best idea for smart investors is to diversify. With real estate investments, you get more stability and consistency in your portfolio. With your money in a long-term real estate deal, you pay fewer taxes, keep more of your money, and build generational wealth faster.

The Importance of Right Information

If you're in the real estate game, make sure your CPA is well-versed in real estate. A great CPA who knows this field inside and out can mean a huge difference in your accounts and the amount of taxes you pay.

When it comes to professional services, you can look at it either as a cost or an investment. We choose to see it as an investment because the wrong kind of advice could cost you millions of dollars over a lifetime.

Post: Self Storage

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

@Michael Wagner thanks for pointing that out.  Our absorption is of course dependent on market demographics.  All 3 feasibility consultants as well as cubesmart laid out the timeline, and the banks 3rd party agreed with them.  Market specifics matter here 

Post: Self Storage

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

@Zach Quickit depends on size of course, but these are 100k+ sq ft averaging 6 months build time and 18 months lease up

Post: Self Storage

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

@Zach Quick, yes, all in Orlando.  We do our own feasibility  and then cubesmart does a secondary one with drilled down unit mix (we were also provided one from the land seller for further redundancy). As to being over built, it would depend on which 5 mile radius you are looking at but our facilities meet less than 1/2 the current demand in each location.  Heres a time lapse video thus far on 1 location https://app.oxblue.com/open/is...

Post: Looking For Self Storage Advice

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

Happy to offer any advice/assistance that I can.  We are building our 3rd facility in orlando, over 100k rentable each.  We started in storage by investing as a limited partner, learning the ropes then looking for our own projects

Post: Self-storage — How to tell if a market is too saturdated?

Steven LibmanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bluffton, SC
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 45

When a property and initial underwriting seems to pencil, the next step is a feasibility study, which is basically a storage specific market analysis that will rate your chances of success given demographics, competition, population growth, etc.  This step is an important one as it can prevent a costly mistake, and banks even utilize the information in them to underwrite on for financing, so this report can help you clarify your pro forma numbers further during your diligence period.  We are in the process of building 3 facilities in Orlando, all ground up, all over 100k sq ft.