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All Forum Posts by: Stephen Bruce

Stephen Bruce has started 13 posts and replied 36 times.

Post: BuildRRR- Can it work?

Stephen BrucePosted
  • Investor
  • Greenville, SC
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Jake Baker:

@Stephen Bruce

I am not sure you even need a JV agreement, an operating agreement will work just fine. I will use a JV agreement for flips, but I plan to BRRRR, I will create a new LLC and the operating agreement spells everything out.


So you're saying structure it under an LLC partnership?

Post: BuildRRR- Can it work?

Stephen BrucePosted
  • Investor
  • Greenville, SC
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 16

Morning BPers!

As the title says, I am in the process of starting a BuildRRR. I am approximately 85% of my way through the prep and am about to buy the land to start the build. This will be a Joint Venture with the builder. I plan to consult with my lawyer but I also wanted to chat with yall. I am not experienced in JV's. It will be structured this way for the entire build and into the refinance portion. What should I be aware of for the JV process? Will all the details be spelled out in the Operating Agreement? When we refinance and put the deed in an LLC for asset protection, how do you protect both side of the JV under one LLC? Should we then form a partnerhsip LLC?


If anyone is interested in the numbers behind the deal, let me know and I will post them! Thanks in advance for the advise! 

Post: Security system in a Class A rental

Stephen BrucePosted
  • Investor
  • Greenville, SC
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 16
Quote from @David Avery:

Mixed feelings. 

Who want to be watched?

I  don't.  

It's your property and investment.

Of course you don't want the maintenance person taking your $300 set of a steak knifes.  

Or Tenant cutting a slice in your AC  hose outside Unit on the ground. 

Hopefully started a good conversation. 

I guess I should have clarified. It would not be accessible by myself, only the tenant. They will set up their own account and upon move-out do a factory reset for the next tenant! 

Post: Security system in a Class A rental

Stephen BrucePosted
  • Investor
  • Greenville, SC
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 16

Good morning, BPers!

A tenant is moving out and has offered to leave his factory reset SimpliSafe security system in place for $80 (retail $250). I am leaning towards paying the asking price and offering it to my next tenants. What am I missing here? Am I unknowingly taking on extra liability by providing a security system? Can I have them sign a disclosure relieving me of maintenance and liability of the system? Keep in mind it is a class A rental.

I greatly appreciate the advice in advance! 

Quote from @Travis Andres:

I'm guessing the 70% rule is to determine if you'd be able to pull all/most of your money back out on the refi (70% LTV max)?

If so, now I'm seeing lenders willing to do DSCR loans of 75% LTV, so then would I switch to say 75% Rule for analysis?

Thanks!


Why DSCR? They will chew you up and spit you out in closing costs. DSCR is primarily used if you've capped your 10 eligible government backed loans. Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac will do 75% LTV for SFH or multifamily of 1-4 units.

Post: Tenant move out checklist

Stephen BrucePosted
  • Investor
  • Greenville, SC
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Melanie Thomas:

I'm delighted to offer a copy of what we've developed over the years. Naturally, there's no universal solution, but I'm more than willing to share with you. Feel free to message me if you're interested.

Thank you for offering! I’ll send a DM.

Post: Tenant move out checklist

Stephen BrucePosted
  • Investor
  • Greenville, SC
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 16

Good morning BPers!

When you have a tenant move out, what are some items you include on your “move-out check list?”

Think of anything your tenants need to do before they vacate the property! Be creative. Think outside the box. Let me know what I should add to mine! 

Thanks in advance! 

I tend to side with Calvin on this one. If you are an investor, you have connections in every industry. Those connections will tapped into when you have a need. A home warranty company is used for people who do not know the RE industry well and do not have the connections an investor should have (i.e. a first time home buyer). Don't get a home warranty, save the money in your cash reserves, and the leverage the extra cash into your next deal. 

Post: Questions regarding ARV & appraisal

Stephen BrucePosted
  • Investor
  • Greenville, SC
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Dalton Dillon:

I'm looking to purchase a duplex using the BRRR method. I'm concerned about the ARV due to there not being any comps in the area. Even as far out as 1 year. My question is - How will an appraiser appraise the property without there being any duplex/triplex's sold within the last year? My agent even went as far as going over to the next city/town which is pretty far out and still nothing. Will the appraiser use singe family comps since a duplex is still residential?

Hey, Dalton! I am currently going through the same process during my due diligence on a Quadplex. Do you have an update on how your project is going? I'm interested in following along. 

Post: Tenants without a Lease?!?!

Stephen BrucePosted
  • Investor
  • Greenville, SC
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Brandon Lawrence:
Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Stephen Bruce, signed estoppel for each unit as part of due diligence under the sales contract.

You need to use these estoppel forms to verify all the details about the oral rental agreement with each tenant. The tenant needs to sign these so that you have certainty that the information you're being told is accurate.

If you don't, the tenant could pull out a written lease after you buy the property or claim the deposit money is more than you were told or that the tenant owns the appliances.

@Stephen Bruce In South Carolina, where month-to-month tenancies default to a 30-day notice period with no formal contract, it's especially important to exercise due diligence. I agree with Keven that obtaining signed estoppel forms from each tenant is essential. These forms provide a written confirmation of the terms of the oral rental agreement and help prevent misunderstandings or disputes down the line.

By having tenants sign estoppel forms, you can verify important details such as rental amounts, deposit amounts, and any additional agreements or responsibilities. Without these forms, there's a risk that tenants may produce conflicting documents or make claims that could complicate the transition of property ownership.

We are a property management company based in the Upstate of South Carolina. It continues to surprise me how many landlords approach us to manage their properties without having proper leases in place with their tenants during the transition.


 Thanks, for the helpful info! Are you based out of Greenville?