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All Forum Posts by: Solomon Rosenberg

Solomon Rosenberg has started 8 posts and replied 45 times.

Post: 👋Capital Calls: What Investors Should Do

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55
Quote from @Justin Goodin:
Quote from @Evan Polaski:

In the traditional syndication model that many here are used to, this is good advice, with an emphasis on READ BEFORE YOU SIGN.  Some syndicators will simply dilute your ownership if an LP does not answer a capital call.  But others, effectively default your entire investment and may have rights to claim all funded capital, or a substantial portion of your capital, by choosing not to answer a capital call.  Unfortunately, if you don't read this and confirm it ON YOUR OWN before signing, you may find out too late.  


Additionally, while you should ask questions, as Justin points out, most well written documents have some form of indemnification that basically says the investor is relying SOLELY on the signed documents and any communication prior to that is not considered valid.  I.e. if you asked the syndicator in email how capital calls are handled if you don't fund and they respond "your ownership will be diluted", but the docs say your ownership will be relinquished: the docs are right.

And along the lines of needing more capital when things aren't going as planned, as an LP I would highly recommend you understand the rights of the GP to bring in pref equity ahead of your capital and/or make loans to the property/deal from their own pocket, also placing that capital in priority ahead of the LPs. While these may be viewed as a better alternative than an LP capital call, they can also be used as ways to make a deal appear that it is in better shape than it actually is. I highly recommend any potential LP require their syndications to share: Income statement, including all partnership level expenses, Statement of Cash Flow and Balance Sheet. As an LP, you should be able watch the movement of money in and out of a deal with these statements. I have seen many groups simply share the Income Statement down to NOI, which is not an adequate way to monitor the financial health of any type of deal (syndication or otherwise).


 Wow! Amazing points. Thanks for mentioning this. 
I totally agree that GPs should make the complete financial statements available to view. I would think only sophisticated LPs would be able to make their way through these. But not a bad idea at all to ask. 


 As an lp you always want to read through the ppm, at first it may seem overwhelming but after looking through a few you learn what to look for,  as for capital calls you want to get a clear picture of what the capital will be used for and will it be enough to help the situation, putting more money on a bad deal may just increase your loss. 

Post: 2 Capital calls in 2 weeks! Ouch

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55
Quote from @Josh Randall:

@Solomon Rosenberg Any update on your situation?

Also, you said these sponsors were experienced. How many years of experience? A lot of investors and sponsors have a decade of experience which sounds great, but they've never been through a cycle. They've only operated in a bull market.

 @Josh Randall thanks for asking, I should get a better idea over the coming month, your point about experience, one of them has been in the business for close to 20 yrs, and did very well until the music stopped, the euphoria of the crazy returns got to many, and the game changed from running properties well to flipping properties fast, Asset management wasn't given the attention it deserves because you were in and out before it mattered.

@Carlos Ptriawan @Zachary Ware I came to that conclusion a while back, I don't see a path forward where there is a major positive outcome, and most lp's must feel that way because they couldn't raise the capital they needed, 1 of them is trying to sell, the other one still believes they can salvage the deal.

Post: Tax on passive re investments

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55
Quote from @Solomon Rosenberg:
Quote from @Eric Williams:

So you capital contribution is 100k. 

If the property sells in 3 years at a gain of 100k, it will likely be a capital gain unless the partnership is a dealer.

Part of the gain calculation should be proceeds allocated to the land interest and be pure long-term capital.

The amount allocated to the building will consist of 1250 recapture and unrecaptured 1250 at 25%.

The depreciation is an ordinary deduction that would be lumped in box 1 of the K-1.

There may be 1231 and 1245 if they cost seged.

These amounts flow to your 1040 on Sch D and 4797 among others.

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No you cannot use the depreciation against the 100k profit because the depreciation is statutorily prescribed, and the accounting methods are an election made at the partnership level, not the partner level.

Also the gain is capital and the depreciation is ordinary. You don't want to offset capital gains with ordinary deductions since ordinary rates are higher generally. You want the ordinary deductions to offset ordinary income (more expensive than capital generally).



 Thanks fir clarifying. 

Post: Tax on passive re investments

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55
Quote from @Eric Williams:

So you capital contribution is 100k. 

If the property sells in 3 years at a gain of 100k, it will likely be a capital gain unless the partnership is a dealer.

Part of the gain calculation should be proceeds allocated to the land interest and be pure long-term capital.

The amount allocated to the building will consist of 1250 recapture and unrecaptured 1250 at 25%.

The depreciation is an ordinary deduction that would be lumped in box 1 of the K-1.

There may be 1231 and 1245 if they cost seged.

These amounts flow to your 1040 on Sch D and 4797 among others.

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No you cannot use the depreciation against the 100k profit because the depreciation is statutorily prescribed, and the accounting methods are an election made at the partnership level, not the partner level.

Also the gain is capital and the depreciation is ordinary. You don't want to offset capital gains with ordinary deductions since ordinary rates are higher generally. You want the ordinary deductions to offset ordinary income (more expensive than capital generally).


Post: Tax on passive re investments

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55

Can someone clarify,

As an LP in a mf syndication where can one save on taxes and what can I expect to pay?

Here is an example,

If I invested 100k into a mf syndication, Property sells in year 3 with a profit of 100k,

I also invested in other mf syndications and I have losses on paper for depreciation of 200k,

Can I use the depreciation losses against the 100k profit of the sale?

I am not a real estate professional.

My accountant says that it will be a capital gain and I would have to pay capital gain taxes, and the depreciation can only be used against operating profits and not on profit from the sale.

I would love to hear from a professional.

Thanks in advance.



Post: Passive RE investment

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55

Investing in syndications can be a good option, and like others pointed out, take the time to learn it before investing, so.e resources I found helpful, 

• Book: "The Hands-Off Investor" by Brian Burke.
• Podcast: "Best Real Estate Investing Advice Ever Show" by Joe Fairless.

Good luck on your investing journey.

Communication is one of those seemingly simple yet differentiating factors between A-players and the average. The ability to communicate promptly, clearly, openly, and consistently with investors places you in a distinct league.

When you accomplish this, as an investor, I can assume that you maintain the same level of communication with your property manager and throughout your organization. This signifies that you run your business with established systems, which can help prevent mistakes and poor decisions.

The absence of effective communication tells a different story. I've witnessed both scenarios, and I find them quite revealing.

Have you had an experience where a little more communication would've made a big difference?

Post: Lessons from my investments in syndications: Delinquency

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55

Things I'm learning on my investments in syndications:

Delinquency (tenants living in a property who are behind or not paying rent) is a killer of cash flow, which you will find in the income section of the monthly report.

Delinquency is worse than vacancy for several reasons:

1. You still have all the costs without the income.

2. The costs to evict can quickly add up.

3. It's contagious.

Almost every property will have some delinquency, especially Class C where most tenants live paycheck to paycheck. Without strong management, it is easy for delinquency to get out of control.

It's normal for a value-add deal to start out with high delinquency, but within 9-12 months, it should be no more than 5-6% of collections. Stabilized Class B properties should be at 3-4%. (These figures are approximate and vary by market and class.)

As an LP, there isn't much you can do, but an informed investor makes a successful investor.

Also, when looking at a potential deal that is underwritten at 95% economic occupancy, understand that while it's possible, achieving this is a rare thing.

Post: Syndicators - any recommendations?

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55

I had a good experience with Kyle Mitchell Vertical street Ventures in AZ and Alex May of Regency Capital TX.

@Jenny Zhang investing in syndications is not for everyone, for some it's very hard giving up control and trusting someone else with a large chunk of $, you may be better investing on your own or joint venture where you can be more hands on.

Post: LP's, Something to look at in the monthly reports

Solomon RosenbergPosted
  • Investor
  • Rockland County, NY
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 55
Quote from @Mike Dymski:

There is not much that an LP can do once the transaction closes.

Very true @Mike Dymski, but it's important to keep a close eye on your investments, for one to have a sense of when the money will come home, and plan future investments. Also to see how sponsors are performing compared to their underwriting.