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All Forum Posts by: Steve Balinski

Steve Balinski has started 37 posts and replied 106 times.

Post: Which security cameras to buy?

Steve BalinskiPosted
  • Roselle, IL
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 19

Hello everyone, I'd like to get some security cameras that record 24/7. I'm assuming these have to be hard-wired which means there'd be an installation cost. What do you all suggest that is affordable? Its for a 4-unit building.

Post: Which security cameras to buy?

Steve BalinskiPosted
  • Roselle, IL
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 19

Hello everyone, I'd like to get some security cameras that record 24/7.  I'm assuming these have to be hard-wired which means there'd be an installation cost.  What do you all suggest that is affordable?  Its for a 4-unit building.

Post: I'm losing motivation, can't find anything that works.

Steve BalinskiPosted
  • Roselle, IL
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 19
Quote from @Corby Goade:

Sounds like you don't have realistic expectations for your market and ROI.

I talk to newbies about this same thing all of the time- they've read a forum post or connected with some guru who has given them unrealistic expectations for what the market can do TODAY and it creates fear and inaction. 

So worst case senario in your analysis above, you are making an extra $220 per month, someone else is paying down your debt and it's growing in value over time passively?

For what it's worth, those numbers would be a killer deal in my market and I'd buy it myself. 

I'm not saying you should buy THIS property, but I am saying this is a marathon, not a sprint. Wealth comes from holding assets over time and letting them grow and mature. If you are only paying attention to what they will do on the first month, you'll be sitting on the sidelines forever. 


 Yes, agreed.  My strategy is cashflow though, trying to get out of my W2 job asap.  I have a 4 unit that cashflows $2000+/month that I bought for 275K move-in ready in 2017.  I know that's a pipe dream now, but even finding $500 for a SF seems impossible w/o a rehab needed.

Post: I'm losing motivation, can't find anything that works.

Steve BalinskiPosted
  • Roselle, IL
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 19
Quote from @John Clark:
Quote from @Steve Balinski:

Hello everyone, I need some motivation.  I've been an investor for about 8 years. Done a couple flips and currently own a 4-unit and a 2-unit.

I haven't looked at properties in a long time due to interest rates killing any potential deal in my area (SE WI).  Instead of looking for a multi-unit, I started calculating Single Family properties to see what it'd take to make my #'s work.

230,000 starting price (3bd 1.5bth, very low price for this area).

$1900 rent

$4k Taxes

$1500 insurance

$3k all maintenance

20% down

4% interest rate (just to see if even this would hit my #'s.

RESULT = $220 cash flow :-( :-(

How are you all finding single family properties that work?  My target is $500 cashflow, I'm not even close.

I'd even consider 2-4unit, but I know my numbers are even further away.
:-(

What’s your appreciation potential? Appreciation comes at a cost. That cost is cash flow. 

as others have said, you missed vacancy. The property doesn’t cash flow.

 Vacancy is included in my calculation. Agreed it doesn't cash flow.  Even with a 4% rate it doesnt cashflow which is my point, how the heck are people finding cashflowing properties. Even the taxes are low on this one. I can't imagine anywhere else these numbers working.

Post: I'm losing motivation, can't find anything that works.

Steve BalinskiPosted
  • Roselle, IL
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 19
Quote from @Kasi V.:

What about vacancy rates and leasing fees ? ...they can significantly impact your numbers. It's a good idea to use a standard spreadsheet or one of the online calculators. You can find one on BiggerPockets, calculator.net, rollytally.com or baselane ROI calculator.



 I've got a very detailed calculator that includes all that and more.  

Post: I'm losing motivation, can't find anything that works.

Steve BalinskiPosted
  • Roselle, IL
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 19
Quote from @Nadeem Alamgir:

Hey Steve, a lot of investors are feeling it right now with rates and prices where they are. Some are finding better cash flow by searching to more investor friendly or out of state markets where the numbers still work, especially on small multi or light value add deals. You've already built a solid foundation so it might just be time to shift markets or strategy for the next one. 

Im curious what areas people are able to even make the numbers work.

Post: I'm losing motivation, can't find anything that works.

Steve BalinskiPosted
  • Roselle, IL
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 19
Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Have you tried looking at longer term mortgages (eg 30 year)?


 Yes, my calculations are all based on 30yr mortgages

Post: I'm losing motivation, can't find anything that works.

Steve BalinskiPosted
  • Roselle, IL
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 19

Hello everyone, I need some motivation.  I've been an investor for about 8 years. Done a couple flips and currently own a 4-unit and a 2-unit.

I haven't looked at properties in a long time due to interest rates killing any potential deal in my area (SE WI).  Instead of looking for a multi-unit, I started calculating Single Family properties to see what it'd take to make my #'s work.

230,000 starting price (3bd 1.5bth, very low price for this area).

$1900 rent

$4k Taxes

$1500 insurance

$3k all maintenance

20% down

4% interest rate (just to see if even this would hit my #'s.

RESULT = $220 cash flow :-( :-(

How are you all finding single family properties that work?  My target is $500 cashflow, I'm not even close.

I'd even consider 2-4unit, but I know my numbers are even further away.
:-(

Quote from @Greg Kasmer:

Steve - To me, it varies whether you use an "overall number" or % of income depending upon the expense item. 

My general "rule of thumbs" for single families and multis are:

- Property management: 7-10% for single family (based on my market) or 4-6% for larger multifamily.

- Insurance: .75-1% of value of the property for single family (Better to get an actual quote); multifamily I use previous owners estimate or get new estimate.

- Taxes: Varies too much. I typically look up on the county website and get the actual number. 

- Maintenance/Repairs: 7% of income for single family; $400-$500 per unit/year for multifamily

- Reserves/Cap Ex: 5% for single family or $300 per year per unit for multifamily

For multifamily I also include a "releasing/unit turn" expense in the expense base. That typically assumes that 1/3 of the units "turn" in a given year and then I guestimate expenses to "turn" a unit, which might include painting and other minor repairs.

In total I see smaller multifamily property expenses in the 35-45% range, and larger multifamily in the 40-50% range., 

One of the best books to understand expenses for multifamily is Brian Burke's book, "The Hands Off Investor."

Good Luck!


My calculator has another spot for insurance, management, taxes, turnover etc. So for all maintenance/repairs/CapEx your total would be around 12%? I've got a 4-unit C-class property in pretty good shape, built in 1990

Quote from @Bud Gaffney:

at least 10%.


 for what specifically?  

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