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All Forum Posts by: Troy Michaels

Troy Michaels has started 38 posts and replied 113 times.

Post: How do you still owner finance with Dodd Frank?

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Dion DePaoli:
Originally posted by @Troy Michaels:
im totally new to all this, but, how i look at it is this: if you are going to do a lot of owner financing, you should use a mortgage originator. the problem, and the REASON dodd frank was put into place is to keep you from being able to finance people with poor credit. i initially didnt like the idea, but the more i think about it, its a good idea because it shifts the liability more onto the mlo if the buyer defaults down the road. if the mlo qualifies your buyer, how can you be held liable if the buyer defaults? thats why the mlo is BONDED..

There are a couple billion dollar mortgage settlements that would lead us to believe that the law may not pass all liability onto the MLO and absolve the Mortgagee based on MLO actions. The basis there, it has not been explicitly stated, therefore there is not explicit additional actions required to accommodate those types of liabilities on a state level within the SAFE Act.

The short version, 'Lenders' are treated differently in some states. There is a requirement for financial safe gaurds in the form of insurance, bonds and net worth requirements. Based on that idea, I think there is a limited liability to the MLO and still the majority will be the burden of the Mortgagee. An MLO could come and go in the industry over the course of 5 years but the loan made will still exist and your loan would still be present (with you as a Mortgagee). We do not understand how that will work outside of how it has worked in the past. Pre Dobb Frank and all of it's new rules.

I don't have enough time to dig in to that idea more for readers today. Might be able to loop back unless another BP member adds some commentary around the same. My short version, I would say do not bet that any Mortgagee is absolved from liability in full. I really do not see how that would be possible or make a ton of sense.

lets take a investor out of the picture. lets say a homeowner sells their house, to a buyer, that is using a financial institution, thru a mortgage loan originator. the buyer later defaults. under the reasoning above, the buyer COULD in theory, go after the seller of the house, for liability, but instead, have been sueing the banks. thats what im reading here. im with you, just this is my take on what you posted.

Post: How do you still owner finance with Dodd Frank?

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7

im totally new to all this, but, how i look at it is this: if you are going to do a lot of owner financing, you should use a mortgage originator. the problem, and the REASON dodd frank was put into place is to keep you from being able to finance people with poor credit. i initially didnt like the idea, but the more i think about it, its a good idea because it shifts the liability more onto the mlo if the buyer defaults down the road. if the mlo qualifies your buyer, how can you be held liable if the buyer defaults? thats why the mlo is BONDED..

Post: Subject to purchase and rental. basic documents needed.

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @John Hixon:
@Jon Holdman what are the options if a loan is called?

im totally new to this, but one idea i would have is to try and build a relationship with a bank. be able to show them that you have been making payments on a property, and want to refinance it. ( thats if you have been making payments a while without the loan being called.) with what i wanna do, i definitely need a plan b if i dont get the bank's permission to acquire the property. i think most investors sell the property quick as they can and dont worry about a plan b. THATS their plan b. im just talking off the top of my head. when i say this.

Post: Subject to purchase and rental. basic documents needed.

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7

thanx Jon. on a side note, i hear a lot about the due on sale clause. ive personally, not as a investor, have inquired over the years about purchasing several properties, thru owner financing, and in each case, the seller got the bank's permission to owner finance. so, that being said, why is it that investors dont wanna notify a bank to get the bank's permission? are they afraid of scaring off the seller they are trying to get the property from? is it common for the bank to say no?? just curious. thanx.

Post: Subject to purchase and rental. basic documents needed.

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7

Hi. im interested in buying property subject to and holding them as rentals. in this situation, besides the normal purchase agreement, power of attorney, authorization letter,etc. what other documents do i need? ive researched the forum, and wanted updated advice on dislosures i should also give the seller. if i research the title, should i STILL get a title company? ( title insurance,etc.) since im holding the property and have no intent to sell? thanx

Post: Protecting a tax lien investment from damage

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7

thanx tom and ned. those are both great suggestions..

Post: Protecting a tax lien investment from damage

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7

thanx for the responses. i live in georgia. would these be owner occupied insurance polices? what companies would offer insurance in this situation. thanx.

Post: Tax Lien Property Burned Down

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7

bumping this up for a answer about insurance on a tax lien....

Post: Protecting a tax lien investment from damage

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7

got a question. lets say you purchase a tax lien, and before the property is redeemed or you acquire it thru quiet title, what happens if the house is burned down or damaged by the current owner or someone else?? should or can you buy insurance on the house to protect your investment??

Post: First shot at wholesale deal

Troy MichaelsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 117
  • Votes 7

what SPECIFICALLY are you asking? are you concerned about the all the children's name being on the title?