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All Forum Posts by: Sebby Gabre Madhin

Sebby Gabre Madhin has started 1 posts and replied 86 times.

Post: Sellers trying to cancel contract during inspection period

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

((Yes. That frantic backpedaling sounds familiar...LOL))

Our contract doesn't have that clause, to my reading, it makes no mention of the seller being able to cancel contract during this inspection period, just states that the BUYER can withdraw and get earnest money back if no agreement reached. 

Post: Sellers trying to cancel contract during inspection period

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

well, the "good" news is that this was/is a good but not "great" deal, so walking away actually won't kill us...but it seems nonsensical.  (The lack of logic bothers me, but I agree that the sellers are being emotional. I don't want to get in a situation myself where I forget that this is just business, no value in a pissing match..)

I.e. If our lawyer agrees that Florida law invalidates a contract once a written repair request is made, it is not the type of situation where it would be worth our time or money to fight it.   We are a little lucky in our area that there are still plenty of decent deals.  

Post: Sellers trying to cancel contract during inspection period

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

yep, definitely will keep the appointment with the lawyer....

Post: Sellers trying to cancel contract during inspection period

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

our point is that they can reject the addendum, but can they also reject the original contract which they signed (which has not been modified)?

Post: Sellers trying to cancel contract during inspection period

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

We did nothing to the original contract, just sent over an addendum.

Post: Sellers trying to cancel contract during inspection period

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

Hi all-

I just wanted to run a problem that my partner and I are running into during a double duplex purchase.  Properties are in Central Florida.

We recently went under contract for a pair of duplexes off the MLS, and were able to negotiate a decent reduction off asking (about 12 k per property) of these two side by side duplexes, 2 individual lots/contracts but from the same owner (a group of 3 siblings who inherited these investment properties 3 years ago). Contract signed by both parties and earnest money paid, then inspection period started.

During inspection, our inspector found several small issues, and a couple of larger ones, including a roof that had damage, required some shingle replacement and a water heater that was leaking (and very old).  In addition, he found evidence of some termite treatment/past damage.  He actually found that one of the two houses, both of which had been listed as block homes, is actually woodframe.

We asked for a credit at closing to cover this, $3000 per property.

When we brought this up, they then disclosed that there had been some treatment for past termite issues and that they had a current (transferable) termite bond.  They then said that their handyman would repair the roof, put in new water heater, and fix some other issues.

We said that we were not comfortable with a handyman fixing the roof, esp in a long term hold rental, and that we would prefer to have a professional roofer fix this.  We then wrote/signed an addendum to each contract that proposed a $1500 credit at closing to fix issues instead of accepting that their handyman would do it.

We were surprised to get a cancellation notice from them at this point, and are now in a position where we are arguing that our original contract is still valid, we wish to proceed with purchase even if they do no repairs and give no credit, and they can say that they are not going to do any repairs based on inspection report, but they cannot unilaterally cancel the sale (without incurring damages).

They and their agent/broker think that they can cancel the contract because they believe that our addendum was a counteroffer, and so this nullifies the original signed purchase agreement.  They claim that their lawyer has reviewed and says this is valid.  Our agent and his broker think they are very much in the wrong.

We have an appointment next week with our RE lawyer to discuss, but...what say ye, BP world??

Sebby

(PS.  I know that we could just walk away, but this is a pretty nice deal, essentially a quad in a nice area of town, which is not too common in our neck of the woods....and besides,  I would like to know the answer anyway so that next time we don't make the same mistake, if indeed this was our mistake).

Post: Finding renters before the year ends

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

I also agree with getting someone in as soon as possible.  My goal is always to get the lease started as close to the last nail being driven in or the last swipe of the cleaner's cloth as possible.  Empty house is lost profit!

I also always prorate the second month rather than the first.  I am a little uncomfortable with someone who is looking for a house but doesn't have a full months rent plus security readily available-- that's a bit of a red flag for me.  If it's within a week or so of the end of the month I collect prorated plus first month's rent on move in, otherwise collect a full month on move in , and prorated rent the first of the next month.

My vote would be to sell the property and use the $$$ to invest in something that is closer to you, easier to manage for you first rehab and/or rental. I don't deal in the California market, but from my (Floridian) perspective, I agree that the rental income of $1500-1800 is too low to justify keeping this property and doing BRRRR.

Post: Who's going to the CFRI meeting tonight?

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

it's a holiday party type thing tonight so may have more exposure than usual I guess. We are still deciding but may go. 

Post: Central Florida Real Estate Agent For You

Sebby Gabre MadhinPosted
  • Investor
  • Mount Dora, FL
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 44

Welcome Joey. We are in North Lake county (Mount Dora/Tavares/Eustis/Leesburg etc) but have many friends doing business in Clermont etc. 

good luck and I'm sure you'll get tons of great info on BP. 

Sebby