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All Forum Posts by: Eric X.

Eric X. has started 7 posts and replied 186 times.

Post: Rental vs. Stocks ROI Question!

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130
Originally posted by @Ryan Barnes:

I would LOVE to hear all of your investing perspectives and opinions on this... I have calculated the ROIs of a buying a rental property versus simply buying into the SP500 and sitting back for 30 years.

Rental Property Analysis:

Initial Cash investment - $45,000

Purchase price of $200,000 on 20 year term

Cash Flow neutral for loan term of 20 years.

Cash Flow positive for remaining 10 years. 

30 Year Approximate Net Profit = $110,000 Cash Flow + $300,000 Equity

ROI = ($410k / $45k) or 911%

Stock Market Analysis:

Initial Cash investment - $45,000

Purchase shares in SP500 Index Fund

30 Year Approximate Net Profit assuming 10% growth rate = $847,683

ROI = ($847,683 / $45k) or 1883%

Am I missing something? Does this all come down to the more philosophical and/or stress tolerance aspects of buying stock versus tangible property? Because it seems like from a strictly numerical approach the "better" strategy is to just buy stocks.

10% growth rate? Jeez even the most optimistic long term funds don't anticipate a 10% growth rate...ever. When I was in banking, we would telling institutional clients to expect 7% with a semi balanced portfolio. If you can get 10% consistently, you shouldn't be on Bigger pockets, you should be running your own hedge fund. 

Yes it is possible with an aggressive allocation but that carries more risk. 

And you DO need to take into account initial cash flow as well as completely depreciating the asset over 27.5 years. You have a physical asset that usually appreciates, creates cashflow, and has a large tax benefit. 

It is a different investment vesicle that is easier to predict.  Neither are bad investments. 

Post: Property Under Contract in Chicago - Foundation Issues

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130

@Andrew McCotter

Foundation repairs can be a thousand to 5 figures depending on what needs to be done. 

I would request owner unseal hatch and have a foundation expert go take a look.

Post: Discovered BP, Then Bought 3 Long-Distance Props In 14 Months!

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130

@Tyler Caglia

Congrats! I don't know too much about Ohio.  Are there properties in b,c, or d areas?

Post: Moving back to America...Location?

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130
Originally posted by @Geniphyr P.:

@Eric X.

Do the property taxes in Texas still make it a good bet?

I'm In Illinois. anything under 10k a year is a good deal for me.  Only half serious...but my small 2 bed 1 bath duplex have taxes of 4-5k. And some of my 1500 sq ft townhomes have property taxes of 7k.

Keep in mind if taxes are high, the rent you typically get to charge is also high.

Post: Moving back to America...Location?

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130

안녕하세요! Well that's the extent of my korean...but rule of thumb would be..

*growing population

*job growth/opportunities 

*reasonable real estate prices

*friendly landlord laws

*low taxes

Ohio, Indiana, Arizona, Texas, Tennessee, The Carolinas(not sure just see a lot of investors from there)

I'm in Illinois which is mediocre at best but my family is here so what can you do. I do have some homes in Phoenix area and San Antonio and I would much prefer investing over there if I didn't have my home base in Illinois

Welcome back to the states!

Post: Cash out refi to sit on cash?

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130
Originally posted by @Isaac Hebron:

@Eric X. 3.8 that is great I’m at 5

It depends on your LTV and your credit profile. Anything above 75% ltv and it jumps into the low to mid 4s. not bad but not ideal.

Post: Cash out refi to sit on cash?

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130
Originally posted by @Peice Livingston:

@Eric X. Who do you go to for a cash out refi? I have 2 properties and want to purchase more, but I'm having a hard time finding lenders. Can you point me in any direction?

what state are you in? My broker only does Illinois. However the banks she uses are Provident and UWM. They both have fairly high requirements in terms of LTV, credit, and income in order to qualify for the best rate/terms

Post: No origination fee, $2700 to refinance 93k SFR @3.65%,fair cost?

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130

@Mo Muigai

Is the 3.65% on an investment or your own home? if that is for investment, that is a really good rate and completely reasonable.  I would say 2200-3200 is the range I've seen on refi costs in Illinois.

Post: Zillow charges $9.99 now, where are people moving their listings?

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130

@Matt Paris

I typically list on MLS. I am an agent so I save some there but I'm willing to pay if someone can bring in a nice quality tenant fast. MLS still has the best exposure by far.

Post: Cash out refi to sit on cash?

Eric X.Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 130

@Tj M.

I think rates will probably be fairly low at least for the foreseeable future. I am getting 3.8% on 75% LTV for investment properties...so that is a fantastic rate. I'm still picking up properties that make sense but I'm going to use a few larger homes and my own home as a refi piggy bank in case the market tanks to the point of going "all in"

Good banks are paying 1.6-1.7% so you are looking about a 2% real cost to hold the cash if you do just have the cash sitting in the bank. Not terrible but I feel uneasy with large sums in the bank.