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All Forum Posts by: Sam Liu

Sam Liu has started 8 posts and replied 45 times.

Post: Closed an occupied REO but can't find out who lives there

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Leigh C:

I had a cat with kittens locked in a garage once, it was all a scam to get cash for keys since they read online that animals+power on=occupied.    I called animal control and when the tenant came by demanding cash I asked for their name and legal address for the purpose of filling out the forms.   I also alerted them to the neglected animals left in the garage that animal control seized and was looking for the owners to press charges.  

They blinked twice at me and then left without saying another word.     Almost better than sex.....almost

 Thanks for sharing the story. They do have power on and animals. I do prepare to get cash for keys. But given the condition of the house, I'm not going to give them a dime. Will call animal control and hopefully it'll go well.

Post: Closed an occupied REO but can't find out who lives there

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Federico Gutierrez:

90 day evictions in CALI? WOW

If no one lives there could you file for abandonment? Maybe you can gain access quicker that way

 I did some search for abandonment. Most information is about after tenants don't pay rent for 14 days. Will need to check further if there is any law about abandonment when I don't know if there are tenants.

Post: Closed an occupied REO but can't find out who lives there

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Leigh C:

Call animal control, it's not your decision to make.     They will let you know what THEY want to do.     You can't be held responsible for what THEY decide to do.

I wouldn't deny access to the house though.   I would consider snapping a key inside the lock though by mistake and posting a note on the door assuming the dog is gone.    If no response in 2-3 days I'd go with an attorney.    

Surprised you didn't make contact before closing.

Good point! I should call animal control. Our agent warned us contact before closing may be sued for trespassing...

Post: Closed an occupied REO but can't find out who lives there

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12

Zana, Wayne, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Yeah, very tempted to get rid of the dog and change the key. Just wondering if this is legal and will get me into trouble later if they are indeed tenants who just trash the property. 

Sajju, the property is actually in Contra Costa county. The question is: can the notices be served if we can't find out their names?

Post: Closed an occupied REO but can't find out who lives there

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12

I just closed an occupied REO SFH in California last week. I drove by the house but it seemed no one lived there. From the windows, I saw there was a big mess inside the house: very dirty carpet; old and dirty furniture randomly stacked on each other; all kitchen cabinet drawers were pulled out; no clothes, dishes or food, no any sign that someone lives there. But there is a dog inside barking and a lot of dog pops on the dirty carpet. It's a mess!

So I talked to the neighbors. They said owner didn't live there and they saw some people with kids who claimed as tenants, but they haven't seen these people for a couple of weeks. An old lady was worried that the dog was abandoned, so helped monitor if anyone came in to feed the dog. Two days later, she told me there was a guy came at night and left. It seemed he went to feed the dog but didn't live there (I can't imagine if anyone can live in there). 

I served a notice, said I'm the new owner and asked them to contact me if they are tenants. No one contacted me so far. It's such a confusing and weird situation. I originally planned to meet either previous owner or tenants to discuss cash-for-key or agree on something. But now I even can't find out who lives there (tenants or just squatters?) If they are tenants, they would call me, right?

Looking for help here to handle this situation.Are these people just use the house for their junk and pet? If that's case, can I consider this house is abandoned? If still no one calls me, I'll ask animal control to remove the dog and gain the possession? Or I need to do 90 days notice to start eviction assuming tenants still live there? (Gosh, just found out CA requires 90-day notice now). But the house is really in a bad condition. Can I do 3-day eviction notice because they didn't maintain the house properly?