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All Forum Posts by: Sam Liu

Sam Liu has started 8 posts and replied 45 times.

Post: Convert a STR to MTR/LTR

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Allen Duan:

Hi Sam! My company manages MTRs in Los Angeles. Not sure where your property is exactly, but we find MTR rates are 50-100% higher than LTR rates. 

MTR tenants are the best tenants, better than STR and LTR. The stays are longer than STRs so of course you would expect more wear and tear and a deep cleaning after each booking. But we've rarely had bad guests who trash the place like we do for STRs.

If you're switching from STR, you should expect a decrease in ROI since MTRs earn less than STRs in general. The right way to market a MTR requires more than just Airbnb bookings. If you get good lead flow for insurance and corporate bookings, you can potentially match or make more than STR income.

Happy to help further, let me know what I can do for you!

My house is in Palm Spring. The STRs have not been doing well. How long are your typical mid-term stay? Like Gabe Chase mentioned above, one year is probably too long? 

Post: Convert a STR to MTR/LTR

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Lauren Kormylo:

Besides wear and tear on the building and furnishings, remember with MTR you are paying for all utilities, internet, and lawn care, unlike LTRs.  And you'll have to make decisions on supplying linens and consumables, which many MTR guests expect to be included.  So the 30-50% higher number may not look so good when you run the numbers. 


Good to know! Do you recommend going with LTR without furniture? My other LTR is actually doing better than this STR and needs less attention. But we put a lot of effort into getting this STR ready, and I'm not sure what to do with all the furniture. How did you handle the transition from STR to LTR?

Post: Convert a STR to MTR/LTR

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12

@Collin Hays @Michael Baum @Carolyn Fuller Thanks for sharing the information. Very helpful!

Post: Convert a STR to MTR/LTR

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12
Quote from @John Underwood:

Try posting on Furnished Finders as a MTR and see what happens.

You are already set up.


I posted on Furnished Finders. The price point they are looking seems lower. Has not got much tractions yet. 

Post: Convert a STR to MTR/LTR

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12

I have a STR house in a resort town, but the city's new stricter policies have really cut into my revenue. I'm thinking about switching to MTR/LTR with furniture included. In this area, people usually rent for 1-12 months, and the rent is 30-50% higher than unfurnished LTR. Has anyone else made this switch from STR to MTR/LTR? Did it lead to more damage to the furniture/property and end up lowering your ROI? I got an inquiry from a family with a mid-size dog.

Post: Convert a STR to MTR/LTR

Sam LiuPosted
  • Investor
  • Santa Clara, CA
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 12

I have a STR house in a resort town, but the city's new stricter policies have really cut into my revenue. I'm thinking about switching to MTR/LTR with furniture included. In this area, people usually rent for 1-12 months, and the rent is 30-50% higher than unfurnished LTR. Has anyone else made this switch from STR to MTR/LTR? Did it lead to more damage to the furniture/property and end up lowering your ROI? I got an inquiry from a family with a mid-size dog.

Originally posted by @Vivek Khoche:

@Sam Liu - Any update ? I am sure things are under control

Good Luck

Vivek

 I challenged the attorney with all the facts I found. They came back to me and said we could get writ of possession immediately. Although it took another two and half week for them to get the real writ of possession served, the tenant was finally evicted early April. Now the house is going through re-hab, no big damage, but all carpets and walls are very dirty. If I sell it for my target price, I won't lose money. Otherwise, will lose money..... so far, the worst investment I've made. 

Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Sam Liu - I would be brutally honest, I haven't heard other side of the story but can tell you about your fault. I am not sure why are you wasting time on BP asking for solutions. Reach out to OP of the link I sent you for the quick eviction. 

At some point you would have said same thing about Cordova property. It's 30 year long ride.

Good luck Investing

Vivek 

 I think I saw that post before, but it was about "difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount".... there are like 9 pages. Not sure which part you were talking about. 

Yes, another strange experience I went through. I'm just too "lucky"... :(. Also, I have a full-time job just investing when I get time. Definitely not a PRO. But there are not many good choices in this seller market, either buying REO required a lot of work, or investing out-of-state. However, that house turned out to be a good investment, given the soaring rent and house price in Bay Area. We just needed to do a lot of work to get it ready for rent.

My friend offered to help me find another attorney because she felt bad getting me into this situation. but not sure if it's easy to switch attorney....