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All Forum Posts by: Roy Gottesdiener

Roy Gottesdiener has started 47 posts and replied 116 times.

Post: MTR's 16 Months in: 10 things we've learned (South East, Winston Salem)

Roy GottesdienerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Singapore
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 45
Quote from @Evan Kline:

I thought I'd share some of our lessons from the past nearly year and a half of running mid-term rentals. Back in January 2022 we had an LTR turnover on one of our units. My wife and I have been super scrappy over the past couple years and have moved 5 times in that time period to house hack and primary our way to a small portfolio of 6 units (now 5, we just closed on a sale of one of our properties Monday this week). The unit was a small 1/1, 900 sqft space in a duplex. I still don't remember to this day why we thought to do this. Mid-terms weren't really talked about much back then, certainly not nearly as much as they are now, but we decided to move in to the 1/1 space, furnish it while we lived there for traveling nurses, and then move on to our next home purchase. (We buy homes as primaries and move into them to get lower rates and 5% down, we've been upfront with our lenders and we've found a few who work with us and allow us to purchase more than one house a year with this kind of strategy.)

Fast forward 14 months to April 2023 that 1/1 has stayed rented for +95% of the time and we purchased another house specifically as a MTR in August of 2022 (and we haven't had a vacancy yet on that one). Here's a few things we learned during this time period, in no particular order.

1. Nurses only make up 1/3 of our tenants. We were surprised by all the reasons people need a furnished space for a month or more. Professors or graduate students traveling in town to teach or take a semester class, people selling their home and needing a landing place before their next, grandparents in town to help out with their newborn grandkids, people coming from out of town for outpatient surgery. 

2. One downside to MTRs we found is it can take a long time to get superhost on Airbnb. We just got superhost last week, 14 months in, running 2 units. Airbnb changed their policy last year so mid-term stays weigh heavier than short term stays in terms of earning superhost, but its still a long road if you exclusively run mid term rentals. Especially if you plan to list on multiple platforms. If you get a stay through furnished finder, that's a lost review on Airbnb. 

3. Weird stuff broke on us we didn't think about. Our touch screen locks ran out of batteries in the middle of stays multiple times. Now we keep a backup key on site in a lock box and also lots of extra batteries in a drawer on site. We had a refrigerator lock up/shut down on one tenant because the previous tenant never opened the freezer. It turns out freezers are designed to be opened and if they aren't they can damage themselves. Now we include complimentary icecream bars to incentivize guests to open that freezer door a couple times. 

4. Kids are worse than dogs. Cats are worse than both. Bunnies are OK. In any case pet friendly is what has kept us booked. A fenced in backyard is a huge asset and has help us stand out from other listings. Our 1/1 doesn't have a fenced in yard (our other listing does) but is across the street from a park and within walking distance of a dog park. We've helped other people turn on MTRs and they have been squeamish about allowing pets. Their occupancy rate suffered and eventually they all went pet friendly.

5. This isn't MTR specific but is a principle we saw proven in practice. The speed to address a problem is infinitely more important than the magnitude of a problem. We've had heat go out when it's freezing, AC go out when it's 90, flooding, sewer backup, plus a host of other smaller issues (like the previously mentioned keypad/batteries). We responded quickly (within minutes) and addressed the problem as quickly as possible. Even though in some cases it took days to fix an issue, quick and open communication kept our guests happy. A lot of the issues we faced are what most people think of as "worst case scenarios" but we still haven't received less than a 5 star review. The one aspect of this that IS MTR specific is an issue will not taint a guests whole stay. If someone is just staying for a weekend and the air goes out, that ruins their who stay. If someone is staying for 90 days and the air goes out for 2 days, that's just a fraction of their time spent there. So in a way problems aren't as big of a deal. 

6. Smaller private units make more money per sqft than larger units. But both can work. We have a 1/1 and a 4/2 unit. 1/1 we charge 2200/month (bumping it up to 2400 now that we have superhost) and our 4/2 we charge 3000/month (bumping it up to 3200). 

7. Amenities we found necessary: blackout curtains, noise machines (or box fans), tv's in bedrooms, desk space for working (this opens up your unit to traveling professionals who are working remotely, including someone like a traveling nurse who's partner comes with them and works), interestingly we found including streaming services are explicitly NOT preferred (people like using their own, especially for a long stay, since they have a watch history/favorites/etc.). 

9. We learned not to furnish our MTRs exactly like an STR. We found our tenants prefer something more "homey" than "vacation-y". So things like a coffee pot instead of a Keurig, couches that are actually comfy and don't just photograph well. Don't skimp on the bed/bedding. As previously mentioned; desk space. Cooking amenities are more important. A nice kitchen is much more appreciated in a mid-term than an STR.

10. Getting a MTRs first tenant is the hardest. We found it can take 2-3 weeks to get your first tenant in the door (with our own and those that we've helped start MTRs in Winston), but once you get your first the ball keeps rolling. Because now you have 30 days or more people are looking at your listing, and we've found keeping a place booked is not too difficult once it gets started.  

 What else have people learned? Would love to hear what your tips, tricks, and secrets are for MTRs.


 Thanks fir the post! I just bought a property not far from wake forest and considering using it for MTR. Do you manage them or know someone that does? 

Post: Looking to get into STR in NC

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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  • Singapore
  • Posts 125
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@Stephanie McFarlane sounds great! Sending you a message now

Post: Looking to get into STR in NC

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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@Brooklyn McCarty thanks, had a look at their website and not sure I fully understand what it is they offer. Is it an end to end solution from buying a property all the way to managing it?

Post: Looking to get into STR in NC

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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My partner and I own several long term rentals across NC and thinking about getting into STR mainly in Raleigh-Durham but open to other areas as well. Looking to connect with realtors and management companies operating in the field.

Post: STR Property Management Company in Raleigh, NC

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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  • Singapore
  • Posts 125
  • Votes 45
Quote from @Jake Mercer:

We have a full service STR property management company that works with short term rentals in the Raleigh, NC and surrounding areas. Happy to connect with anyone curious about the market and interested in the the success of airbnbs in NC. Happy to meet with anyone to connect and chat short term rentals as well. I can talk about the industry for hours : ) I have 3+ years of experience in Rental Arbitrage and STR property management and we have 12 STR properties in the area.


 Hey Jake I'd love to connect, sending you a message now 

Post: Thoughts on 28216 in Charlotte?

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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  • Singapore
  • Posts 125
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@Chris T. Thanks a lot that's really useful information

Post: Investing in Rock Hill SC

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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I'm completely new to the area and looking for people with rentals in Rock Hill to share some insights. I'm digging up information to get myself educated but would love hearing from other investors. Which areas to stay away from, any specific to pay attention to and in general your thoughts on Rock Hill going forward

Post: Thoughts on 28216 in Charlotte?

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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  • Singapore
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Looking at deals on n this zip around Lincoln heights and Washington heights and was curious if anyone has any experience from that area. From my research I can't tell if it's a pretty rough area or it was like that and now getting much better

Post: Looking for advice how to deploy 300k

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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@John Morgan because from my experience these areas have a lower quality tenant base and the reality doesn't really converge with the spreadsheet

Post: Looking for advice how to deploy 300k

Roy GottesdienerPosted
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@Nicholas L. I see, either way as a foreigner I can't do 1031s but I'm definitely looking for areas to invest in long term