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All Forum Posts by: Christopher B.

Christopher B. has started 26 posts and replied 686 times.

Post: How to grow rental business faster? New-ish Investor

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Tae C.:

@Mike H.

Curious - do you know any lenders that are offering HELOCs on rentals? The only one I've seen is a credit union that will only work with people related to the military in some capacity. Also, even more curious - HML who finances 100% of purchase and rehab?? Would you be willing to share the info? Also, what's the interest rate at with that lender?

@Ryan Bolt I agree with @Thomas S. re: HELOC. The way I think about it is is, it's much cheaper than hard money, and more than likely cheaper than most private money you'd find as well. Sure, in theory you're putting your house "on the line", but really in essence you're just using actual equity that you currently have in the house rather than borrowing a brand new loan. I am currently in the process of actually increasing my HELOC to open up more access to capital for future projects once my current ones are done. Also, I am in the Knoxville area - if you are interested in going the HELOC route, let me know. I am working with a local credit union who is offering me 100% LTV - the appraiser just came to my house today actually, I'm looking forward to closing on the new HELOC in a few weeks.

Hey Tae, I am thinking about switching banks, do you mind to share the credit union you are using? Is your lender familiar with investors? 

Post: How would you verify an online business like a bookkeeper?

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Daniel Hyman:

@Christopher B.

Are other BP investors engaging him/her? That would be a good start in terms of verifying the competence of the bookkeeper. You could also ask the bookkeeper which CPA does he/she collaborate with and then verify the competence level with with the CPA.

If you are concerned about the safety of your financial documents, most cloud based accountants use software (Quickbooks, file sharing services, etc) with bank-level encryption. 

Ultimately, people come to appreciate the absolute convenience and built-in security of online accounting services. 

I don't know if anyone from bp uses them, probably do. So I shouldn't worry about getting copy of business license or any kind of documentation from them that verifies their entity and that type thing? 

I guess you could say I am hesitant when first working with new companies, especially if they're not local. 

Post: How would you verify an online business like a bookkeeper?

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

Not sure of the best place to post this so here it goes.

I've talked with an online bookkeeper that I like quite well. They handle other investors, seem to get it, etc. We've discussed how they'll access accounts with view only logins, etc so I feel pretty good about trusting them but I've never hired anyone that wasn't local. Is there anything I should do or get from them to verify them as a company before moving forward?

Post: Electrician Wants 50% up front

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

@Matthew Paul I understand your position, some people like working with homeowners and in this environment it makes a lot of sense. I don't know if I can agree that it's riskier to work with investors. I agree with you that if they have no experience with rehabs or are dependent upon draws from the bank it's riskier and not worth the effort with as much work is out there. For my subs, they know exactly what they're getting and that's paid. 

Post: Knob And Tube Wiring Older Home

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Mags S.:

why are you looking to replace the knob & tube wiring?  K&T is not uncommon in my area. Insurance did require there being some electrical updating but it did not require us to remove all K&T

K&T was installed around the time of the Ford Model T. There has been at least 3 generations of wiring updates since then. They're outdated and dangerous. 

Post: Electrician Wants 50% up front

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:

You dont trust him and he doesnt trust you . How does the contractor know that you are good for the money especially when you arent a local ?  Why as a contractor should he finance your job ?  Copper wire , breaker panel , permits arent cheap materials are close to the 50% he wants . Supply houses do offer credit , net 10 days usually then there is a carry charge after that . Then you have labor , so he gets the rough in done and has all his money out and has to wait till you get a draw ?   Thats what he is avoiding . 

I am a contractor , no deposit , no work , no exception . My funds are working for me in my investments , not the customers . If I have 3 or 4 jobs running and I am fronting materials , I could have 10's of thousands of dollars out . Then waiting for my money , not.... Thats not a contractors business , thats what banks do . 

If my business is to sell the house then I have to pay you or your lien will prevent me from accomplishing my end goal. You have recourse via that lien which prevents me from selling the house and getting paid. What is my recourse when you walk with $3k of my cash? Nothing.

I respect your opinion and know it's done that way on the retail side of the construction business. Heck, if I was doing a customer job I'd probably charge the same because there is more risk working with a homeowner. However, when a contractor works for an investor/builder it's a business to business transaction and should be treated as such. You're right though, building that trust is difficult in the beginning. I think we've all been burned a time or two, it's unfortunately part of this business. 

Post: Contractors don't complete their job!!!

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Jamie Garcia:

I'm a contractor myself and what we love and makes us move fast is getting paid on time and when we ask.
Delay of payment isn't fun for anyone especially us.
We have guys to pay and materials to pay.
We aren't the bank and shouldn't have to pay for everything out of pocket waiting for client to pay.

That being said talk with them and see what you can do to make them move faster and get your project completed on time.

Sometimes you get stuck with slow, lazy contractors and that sucks, vet them out as much as possible.
Recommendations are key.

"When we ask" I bet you do love getting paid anytime you ask for payment. Unfortunately most people will do this. 

Post: Snowballing Rental Properties

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

Good income. Continue to contribute to 401k to get the max contributions from your employer. Get rid of the truck payment, by something cheaper with cash or significantly lower the payment. Just pay the student loans monthly as you're doing. Instead of buying a single family residence buy a multi family to live in, this will help in real dollars as well as make you a stronger borrower for the bank.

Don't wait until you have cash to buy a property. Do more research on here because honestly that doesn't make much sense. You'll be waiting around for years before you even get that first property. You have to use leverage, at least initially. Buy some properties with loans. Don't touch the cash flow except for expenses or to buy more properties. Once you get a couple and you have enough cash reserves you can start implementing the snowball strategy and pay them off sooner if you want but use leverage to acquire them first. 

Everyone has an opinion and here is mine. Max out your 30yr conventional mortgage bullets. These should cash flow well so will be less risky. After this you will get portfolio loans of the 5yr amortized over 20yrs variety, use the cash from your 30yr note properties to snowball against these shorter term loans. 

Read up some more on finance and stuff to wrap your mind around those concepts. Should help ease your worries about leverage 

Post: Rehabbing Spreadsheet for Expenses

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Jurgis Kirsakmens:

I greatly prefer apps over spreadsheets for expense tracking/categorizing (not planning though), ability to add photos/pdfs of the receipts alone is huge plus. Most decent apps will provide option to export to spreadsheet-compatible data format for sharing data with accountant. Any expense tracking app might be an option but there are few ones that are real-estate focused like Landlordy, Housters or LandlordStudio.

 Agree, apps are the way to go. I used the Xero app to enter all my receipts soon as I paid for them. After a while I wanted to track my project costs more closely. So once a week or so I'd sit down and use my app to enter my receipts into my books then manually enter it into my project spreadsheet. Wildly inefficient, this took me hours but it gave me the level of detail I wanted. Working on a better way to do this now. 

Post: Experienced Flippers: What Should I Have When Pitching You a Lead

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

Corey, 

1. So you delay the closing for 8 weeks which means you start rehab in the fall and selling in the winter. Winter sales are always slower and generally sell for less. Not good for you or the investor. Does the seller want to wait 8 weeks? Most are looking to sell today. You're risking losing the entire deal here if they balk and go to another buyer. Quick actions is paramount in this business.

2. If it's a homerun the investor will know that upfront, you don't just blindly walk into those generally. 

You want to make as much as possible I understand but think of timelines as well as your time. Remember a bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush. In your position the opportunity to learn is more valuable than the bigger pay day and you may lose the smaller payday and opportunity to learn by chasing the bigger dollars. You can use the newfound knowledge to lock it down for yourself with confidence on the next one. Find a trust worthy investor and let him haul this fish into the boat but structure it that he's teaching you how he does it, step by step from start to finish. Just make that part of the deal. If you want to be part of the project then instead of taking a finders/wholesale fee offer to bring them the lead and assist in the project for 5% of the gross profit. Be wiling to go to the lumber store, do returns, open doors for contractors, be on site for inspections, deliveries, etc. It's not about what you are doing but what you're exposed to. Even if you have done a couple, seeing how others do things can always help.