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All Forum Posts by: Rodney Sums

Rodney Sums has started 25 posts and replied 557 times.

"Everything looks great"

If you're new to being a landlord and use property managers, even out of town, I share this story to encourage you to ALWAYS do your own move out inspection.

One of my PMs recently told me they inspected the property, took pics of the whole house, said "everything looked great", theyd be refunding the full deposit, and I should consider replacing the carpet.  I drove the 6 hrs to look myself and found:

Large holes in multiple doors, big stains in carpets, poor carpet cleaning not done professionally (likely from a Rug Dr., hence the buy new carpet comment).

Another PM for another home said "everything looked great". I drove the 3 hrs to look and found:

Evidence dogs resided at the property when the lease said no pets (I did some research and found pics of tenants with the dogs in the home), dirty and scratched drywall, red screws in the walls in several rooms, unchanged HVAC filters, carpet stain, and filthy appliances.

These aren't the only times and I tried to keep it short for your reading.   This happens even with really good property managers, and despite having them do 6 month inspections while occupied..  Always inspect yourself if you can, so you can make sure it comes out of the deposit not your pocket. 

Post: dirty and uneducated tenant

Rodney SumsPosted
  • Laveen, AZ
  • Posts 582
  • Votes 526
Quote from @Walter C.:

Has anyone experienced a tenant who is very uneducated? I am currently dealing with one, and now, the issue is going to be on cleaning up the apartment. And I mean, really clean it up, as the pest problem has gotten really bad. Adding to that, he does not speak English, so I had to use Google Translate to communicate.

I wonder... am I going to have make some type of "how-to" guide on cleaning the apartment? I am planning to write down some things that need to be done, and show him, but I am not sure if he will understand the concept at all. I feel like I am dealing with a kid.


 Show him a picture of how the place looked before he moved in, and have Google translate say "make the place look like this again"

Show him a picture of a gorgeous woman and have Google translate say "clean the house up like this fine lady here wants to come over and cuddle with you"

Quote from @Landon Clipp:

Hey folks. Me and my business partner have a SFH with tenants currently occupying it for over a year at this point. We bought the house early last year. The house has a septic drywell and fresh water well, no city connections at all. Recently the tenants were complaining about the water not draining properly so we had a septic company come out and do an inspection. Initially they told us that the house's septic drywell (it's not a leeah field) just needed to be pumped out and it should be fine. So they pumped the septic tank and the drywell. A month later the tenants again claimed the water wasn't draining properly, so the septic company came out again and told us it appeared the septic drywell was totally clogged and not draining properly and needed to be replaced.

We hired an engineer to give us plans on replacing the septic system. He told us that the current septic system and fresh water wells are too close to each other and we would have to replace the fresh water well in addition to the septic. He said all-in-all he estimated the total cost of all replacements to be about $30k.

This is a pretty shocking number to us and we're a bit stuck on what we should do. My business partner wants to sell the house and take the loss but I know that we're going to have to disclose our discovery to the buyers or risk being sued. My thoughts are that we could just eat the $30k now and we'll get it back over the next 10 years or so in revenue and appreciation. 

What would you do in this situation and what do you recommend we should do? Would you sell the house or keep it and do all the repairs?


 Get a second, third, and even fourth opinion on what it would take to get your current system working and if it's possible without a whole replacement. 

if it is, I co sign what others said such as:

investigate if the seller to you knew there was a problem

Did you have it inspected when you bought and if so, how come they didn't see the problem?

If you didn't have it inspected, always do that. Septic, sewer, even the outhouse šŸ˜. I always have plumbing and sewer inspected.

Quote from @James Hamilton:

Hi all, just have a question about the following clause in the Standard Lease Agreement I pulled off BP (one of Brandon Turner's documents included when you order his book). See below. 

"MARIJUANA AND OTHER DRUGS: Tenant shall not be permitted to, and shall not permit any family, visiting friends, dependents, guests, licensees or invitees of Tenant to grow, produce, possess, consume, use, smoke, or ingest any marijuana, cannibas or any products or ingestibles containing marijuana or cannibas in any location in, on or about the Premises; the foregoing prohibition to be absolute and without exception and shall include any growing, production, possession, use or consumption pursuant to any medical use or medical prescription, or any medical, retail or recreational marijuana activities that may otherwise be permitted under any local, state or federal laws, rules or regulations now or hereafter in effect. Tenantā€™s violation of this rule shall be an immediate and incurable default of this Lease and shall be cause for eviction."


Considering marijuana is recreationally legal in Illinois - are we able to forbid consumption on the premises? How do you verbalize your marijuana/drugs clause in your lease agreements? Just seeing if this clause needs to be tweaked considering the changing laws for marijuana. Thank you all!!


 Do you have a concern about tenants and visitors consuming MJ in any form, or not sure what to do about the language? (Excludes concerns about combustion and vaping indoors)

it's legal here in AZ too. Personally, I'd rather have a pot head baked sitting stuck on the couch than a raging alcoholic punching holes in the wall.  

Quote from @Kathleen Park:

Hello, I have new tenants who are moving in in a week. They like to move in with their own appliances including a range, washer, dryer, etc even though the unit has them. Has any had that experience? Do you usually allow them to?


 I wish a tenant would want to bring their own fridge, range and microwave. That would alleviate me from paying to service them.  I usually don't put washer and dryers in so even better if they have that too.

like others mentioned the concern is where to store what you have. If you have a place to do so at no cost to you, charge them the costs for removing and transporting in both directions. 

they may be long term tenants if they're that committed to their own appliances, so if in your shoes I'd try and work it out

Quote from @Joe Wall:

I would really like to start travel nursing but also plan to house hack and buy a duplex very soon.  Has anyone ever been a landlord while traveling for their job like 13 weeks or so?  I was going to start out 1-2 hours away.  I would prefer not paying a property manager right away, but my only concern is if something goes wrong hiring it out.  It could wait as well and I travel back home if that is easier.  My dad can basically do anything and I could pay him some, but he wouldn't want to do it all.  Eventually, I would like to be out-of-state traveling.  Any advice for me?  


 I did it. 

remember to qualify for the tax free per diem, you need a home address away from the the assignment.  Would you be using one of the units in the duplex for yourself or have another property that serves as home base?

in my case, I house hacked a condo.  I bought it, moved in it at purchase, then moved family in to rent a room and then rooms while I was traveling.  Their rents covered cost of the condo but was still a home I had access to, allowing me to earn the travel pay

Post: Architect/planner sought in Metro Phoenix area

Rodney SumsPosted
  • Laveen, AZ
  • Posts 582
  • Votes 526

I'm interested building an apartment a home I have that is zoned MF.  Anybreferrals someone that can draft plans to code would he greatly appreciated 

Quote from @Rick H.:
Quote from @John Slater:
Quote from @Chad U.:

Unless laws are different in Texas, no the state will not open probate. Only an heir or the estate would do so.  

The only recourse you may have is if there is a mortgage on the property. You could potentially contact the lender and purchase it from them. You would then need file for foreclosure.

Failing that the most likely scenario is it would go to tax sale.In California the state would file probate as a public administrator from the sheriffs office. 

Also the lender wonā€™t talk to you, you have zero access to the lender. 
There is never any assurance that a probate is automatically opened by any party. This is why ā€œorphanā€ houses occasionally go to tax auction. In CA, when Iā€™ve completed more than 2,000 probate deals since starting (1978) it surprised me how many properties fall between the cracks, with (mostly) amateurs trying figure out how to monetize.
Educationally, Iā€™ve made the most profit from studying title and becoming an expert. I consider probate primarily a subset of title.
Itā€™s the rare person on these forums who will invest the time, money, footwork and patience that produce sufficient fruits of their labor.


 With that in mind, one of my suggestions was that she watch for the tax sale. She'd have an advantage over other bidders because she is familiar with the owner, family, and that so far no family has come forward to claim the property.  Does this sound like an adequate plan or is there a better way to go about it?

Quote from @Chad U.:

Unless laws are different in Texas, no the state will not open probate. Only an heir or the estate would do so.  

The only recourse you may have is if there is a mortgage on the property. You could potentially contact the lender and purchase it from them. You would then need file for foreclosure.

Failing that the most likely scenario is it would go to tax sale.

The information she had is the home was paid off. I failed to mention that. So if I understand you correctly the house will eventually go on a tax sale if no heir comes forward to claim the property. In that case,  she'd want to learn how to be notified, or monitor the assessor site for the tax sale. Otherwise she'd want to investigate who the heir may be and approach them directly to initiate probate to purchase it from them?

This property is in El Paso, TX

The following is an account from a friend of mine interested in pursuing neighboring home:

-House has been vacant 6 years

-The owner and her two sons died. Owner nor children were married. Owner has no grandchildren. It is unknown if there's any other next of kin. It appears none are aware as the property isn't being maintained.

I looked up tax records on the county assessor site. The last payment was in 2020. Not sure how long that county waits to put the taxes to auction.  What I told her so far is the state (or other governing body) would eventually put the house in to probate and it would go to the next of kind...which could even be some distant cousin the owner wasnt acquaintedwith.  I also shared with her the possibility of a tax auction and someone gaining ownership that way.  

I'm not certain between auction and probate which would take precedent. 

I suggested she work with a realtor, maybe even a P.I. to find who would be the heir and approach them for an off market deal.

if anything I said is incorrect and you have some insight about how she might pursue buying this hime, especially if you know how it works in that county, please share! Thank you.