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All Forum Posts by: Erin Elam

Erin Elam has started 44 posts and replied 336 times.

Post: Double closings in Texas?

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @John Leonard:

Does anyone ever buy the property first, then after it closes, start to market the property and sell it? Why do you need to double close all at once? Whether assigning, or double closing, when you do either of these activities and market the deal (with whatever legal verbiage you need) all at the same time, don't you increase your risk and give up control of the deal?

For example, if you are going to double close or assign, you market the deal appropriately while the contract is still open. You still would need to ask the seller if people (investor buyers) can come see the house (inspect it), while it is still under contract. Unless you cloud title, other buyers now know the address and can find out if the property is available or not. Not only that, they have already inspected the property because you set everything up for them. All they have to do now is contact the seller directly, offer a higher price than what you have it under contract for, and cut you out of the deal! This can and does happen. So what are you going to do? Sue the distressed homeowner for breaking their contract!? Or what happens if you hold an inspection and one of the buyers' contractors goes in and the seller claims they damaged something? You are liable under the contract. What happens if your buyer backs out? Sue them too? Yo-yo back and forth between seller and buyer until it closes? 

Again, you don't have complete control. 

Why not get the buyers out of the picture, close on the deal and take complete ownership of the property. Then, with the sellers out of the picture, you market the property the next day to buyers. At that point you can say whatever you want and not be restricted by legal jargon and schedule whatever inspection you want whenever you want and nobody can cut you out of the deal. So what you lose a couple of weeks maybe, but you reduce your risk and still sell the deal and make money. Make the buyer pay a non-refundable deposit and closing costs on their transaction. Taxes exist no matter what the situation so that isn't a disadvantage. And who cares if they can see what you bought it for from the last closing, the fact is at this point, you own it and you are in control. 

Are their any disadvantages to this that I am missing? Is there anything I have explained incorrectly?

Great foresight questions!!

I thought a double close could in effect handle some of that risk since at the time of B-C, B owns the property and I believe TREC states you don't have to have a license to sell a property you own. It seems owning the property first,  even if just for an hour should meet this stipulation.... although the marketing part would still be limited.  This being because you can't market the property until you own it, before that you can only market the contract (and please anybody who has actually completed these transactions feel free to correct anything I say that's not accurate). And if you're only marketing the contract,  then the B-C transaction wouldn't be accurate if you sell the property but only marketed the contract,  right?

It seems if the property is discounted enough,  a double closing shouldn't kill a deal, even if needing 2 title policies. To me that's just someone being too greedy; yes  the profit is very important,  but in wholesaling it's more about the volume. 

Hope to get some more answers here! :)

Post: D4D using DriveBuy REI or DealMachine Apps

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Juan Arteta:

Hey there everyone , I wanted to know if any wholesalers are using Drivebuy REI or Deal machine app to get any lends? if so can you give me any real world feedback on them , I just feel like everything I find on them just sounds like a salespitch...

I am interested in this comparison as well. Haven't come across any reviews for Drivebuy REI yet!

Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

Link is still at the bottom of each page under Explore.

I don't know why in the world it was put there but thank you!

Post: trying to find docs-fileplace

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47

Did Fileplace get removed from Tools? I can't find the link for Fileplace in Tools or any other of the categories. 

Post: Double closings in Texas?

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Jason Grote:

@Erin Elam, Assignment contracts will be less expensive at the title company than a double close. I used to prefer Double closings because they conceal the amount of money you’re making as an investor, Until I discovered that you can request a blind closing statement, which leaves your side of the closing statement empty for the seller. The pertinent information for the seller is obviously there, but it does not show your line items including the wholesale fee line item. 

Jason, is a blind closing statement the same thing as a splitting the HUD1? And does that hide your fee from both sides or just the seller? 

Also if all 3 parties are at the closing table (to use the blind closing statement option), do A and C ever ask each other any questions? I thought another benefit of a double closing was to keep those parties apart, mainly so C doesn't try to go around me (B) .. although I guess at the closing table it would be too late?

Post: Podio

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47

I've been using Podio for a couple of years now.  I'm a one-woman show so the free plan worked great for me ... until it didn't.  Just today I started getting these 'you've exceeded 80% and need to upgrade popups' and I was like WT?? So I went to Mr.Google and found out the free version now is limited to 500 items .. ok what does that mean?? To cut it short: if you have 250 leads and 250 cash buyers,  you're up a creek and they will lock you out of editing or adding to your data. 

Now when I read their reason, I understood it but it doesn't make sense. They claim that because they need to scale more aggressively,  then charging more people will give the paid subscribers more bang for their buck. So the people who were already paying without any problems... the free people needed to pay to help them out?? Huh?

Oh well,  I'll be moving my data. 

Post: Double Closing...step by step...help

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Rhonda McDaniel:

@Lydia R. Thank you. I kept looking and found a local title company that will do assignment contracts. I also closed my first deal this week. Nothing like forward momentum. As you are a wholesaler, can I ask one more question. Would you recommend one good resource to read/watch? I've been listening to Wholesaling Inc. podcasts so far and paid one mentor to help on my first deal only. He's getting a one time fee of $500... 

I also came across the 'Rhino Nation' as of late. Do you feel the $500 was worth it? I'm not planning on buying anything, but I'd like to know about your experience.

Post: Double Closing...step by step...help

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Lydia R.:

@Daray Olaleye Doesnt it depend on whether you are taking title in your own name or in your LLC? Im pretty sure that if you are buying the property (for a double close) with your LLC ( as you should be) the pass thru is for the LLC and no judgements that are attached to you personally will attach to the property. Now its a totally different story if you are buying in your personal name (which I dont recommend obviously) in that instance any judgements against you (child support, judgements, unpaid Federal taxes or state taxes etc) would attach to the property and hinder the sale.

Lydia so glad you posted this!! I had formed an LLC before I got married and now I'm so glad I did! I'm not too fond of these 'community property laws' I've been finding out about since I got married, I swear those laws are made to make people NOT stay married smh.

Post: Double closings in Texas?

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47

@Austin Smither Langley and @Wayne Dorsa thank  you both for bringing this thread back to life!! It's given me such good information. I've made a list of the better priced transactional lenders because of wanting to not even get into 'that conversation' with my buyer, even though I've read plenty of posts that say the buyer shouldn't care. My question now is to anyone who has done assignments AND double closings: which have you found to be more profitable? And does anyone just assign and split the HUD1 so that way A doesn't know the fee you are making?

Also is 7-9 days usually enough or too much of an option day period to ask your cash buyers to look at the property and get offers?

Also is there some fine line of how you 'market' the property without a license that could make my transaction illegal? Or does the and/or assigns take care of any possible complaint? I don't want to step over the line or even be close to it haha.

Thanks for any answers!

Erin

Post: Bid4Assets Land Auction

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Robere Istatia:

****** Update

I have since bought a property using this site. It seems to me that it is highly dependent on the seller you are purchasing from. I do agree with @Joe Mclain they seem to be making there money through fees but that does not negate the fact that you can still get a good deal. I have used this platform to purchase cheap land across the nation to allow myself to get experience selling at a distance. $601 for an acre is not too bad to teach yourself a lesson and to allow yourself to expand your scope of knowledge, plus you can sell the property. Do your research, sometimes you can find parcels with warranty deeds. 

 Hi Robere,

How was your experience with the purchase? Did they extend closing several times? Did they get MIA when you were trying to contact them? Keep bidding up the property once reserve was met?

Can you give some details about your experience? For some reason there doesn't seem to be a lot of talk or information regarding the B4A auction platform on BP.

TIA,

Erin